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DVO
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dumb question - what is PT in PTBB? [Re: TheWorstPlayer]
      #3245409 - 08/26/05 05:11 PM

Thx

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Re: dumb question - what is PT in PTBB? [Re: DVO]
      #3246309 - 08/26/05 07:29 PM

PokerTracker.... 1 PTBB = 2 Big Blinds

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Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: Niediam]
      #3246848 - 08/26/05 09:30 PM

When you have a 1k bankroll, although I have a sneaking suspicion that most 2+2ers are seriously underrolled for whatever limit they currently play at.

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Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: Malachii]
      #3246981 - 08/26/05 09:52 PM

15 buyins, drop down if you get below 10.

This is the underfunded system that i use.


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Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: Niediam]
      #3248374 - 08/27/05 01:35 AM

Quote:

What approximate win rate (after a significant # of hands of course) do you think should one should have at NL25 before making the move to NL50?

Thanks a lot.




first off you should never view it as a quantum leap kinda thing. just take little shots when you feel comfortable, have the money and are good enough. here's a hand waving yardstick:

try 50NL when:

- you're confident in your preflop game
- you understand position
- you have a good idea of their hand by the river
- you have an ok feel when to continuation bet
- you have 500 or more

100NL when:

- you're confident playing draws
- you can spot good semibluff opportunities
- you can lay down AA/KK unimproved
- you're attacking the blinds in easy steal situations
- you have 1200+

200NL when:

- you're ok betting your stack on a draw
- a PFR from you doesnt always mean AA-JJ and AQs+
- you're starting to play one hand while holding another
- you have more than one mode
- you have 3000 or more

400NL when:

- you can ID profitable preflop steals
- you know how to pick between b3b and c/r
- position factors heavily into your play
- you're good at manipulating pot size
- you have 6000+

1K NL when

- your lines don't define your hand
- you're good at playing and winning lots of small pots
- your oop opponent must hold a strong hand to win a pot from you
- you understand the real math of the game at least at a basal level
- you have 20000+

fim


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Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: fimbulwinter]
      #3249105 - 08/27/05 04:23 AM

Awesome post dude. Makes this game sound easy.

Edited by Isura (08/27/05 04:24 AM)


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Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: Isura]
      #3249217 - 08/27/05 05:03 AM

Bankroll grows faster than skill. Play 25K hands or so, but if you make it to $1200 before you hit 25K hands, take out a few hundred and impress your friends.

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Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: fimbulwinter]
      #4098785 - 12/04/05 11:46 AM

This list is awesome, I looked it up because of a referanse in a recent post.

If you are reading this/have the time to respond could you explain in a little more detail the following concepts (listed in 400). Any key thoughts greatly appreciated

- When to c/r and when to b3b

I think I understand what you are getting at, in both situations you want to get lots of money in the pot, but you want to pick the line that puts the most money in the pot. But is this mostly read dependant or more dependant on the texture of the bord? I.e. a coordinated bord versus a flop with a dry texture, which line do you choose? I think a case could be made for both. If you checkraise on a coordinated board sometiems villain will suspect a draw and wants to put his money in on the flop, which is good. If you bet villain will most likely raise (to charge draws/win the pot) if he has an overpair/TP. If he does, you can threebet, but that might shut down action from villain? esp. if turn helps draws he knows he is either beat by straight/flush or a set.

- ID profitably PF steals

On your list I think this is the only concept where I'm totally lost, and I never put it to practice. I think I understand to some degree what the move is about (squeeze plays and the sort), but haven't really put much thought into it. I sometimes make big reraises and CB from the blinds tho, when I feel someone is abusing the button/CO, but I'm not sure this fits in the category?


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Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: whittiphil]
      #4099163 - 12/04/05 12:55 PM

10PTBB/100?

I don't know how realistic that is.

After about 100K, I'm at 9.5.


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Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: fimbulwinter]
      #4099182 - 12/04/05 12:58 PM

Easily makes my top ten list of most valuable things I've read on this forum.

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