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Bobo Fett
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Re: ipoker bonuses vs. the rest [Re: bkkdude]
      #13167802 - 11/29/07 06:15 AM

Sigh. I don't know why I continue to bother, since you seem to have some need to believe I am lying, when clearly you have no idea what you're talking about in any of your figures.

First of all...70 hands/hour? At 5-max?? There's my first "......lol". Average is just shy of 110.

I have no clue where you get your idea that I would need every hand to meet max rate. Even if you take into account my correction of your hands/hour figure, I guess you would assume I need about 60-70% hands at max rake? There's my second ".....lol". I took a recent session and did some calculations for you:

70 minute session.
104 hands played (slow session, that's only 89 hands/hour).
26.92% VP$IP.
67.9 points collected - that's 58.2/hour, bonus collected $8.31/hr.
$23.65 average pot size.
Number of hands that reached max rake of $3? FOUR. I only had money in THREE of them.

I was tempted to leave it at that and wait for your next post where you basically ".....lol" at everything again, but instead I'll explain where I think you must be going wrong.

Do you know what VP$IP stands for? Voluntarily Put $ In Pot. Note the word in bold. I am playing 5-max. I have money in 40% of the pots even if I fold every hand pre-flop, which would give me a VP$IP of ZERO. In the session detailed above, even though I had a VPIP of under 27%, I had money in 54/105 hands. 67.9/54 = $1.26 average rake, $25.20 average pot.

In conclusion: ......lol


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bkkdude
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Re: ipoker bonuses vs. the rest [Re: Bobo Fett]
      #13168046 - 11/29/07 07:24 AM

actually i dont know y u bother either.

im just havin fun.

however i do believe its easier to clear at dealt rooms for most.(me).

sorry if i insulted u. u do seem to be a serious kind of person.

cheers!

i just know i clear over 1k bonuses at cryptos easily and way less at ongame in the same amount of hand s played.

Edited by bkkdude (11/29/07 07:31 AM)


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Re: ipoker bonuses vs. the rest [Re: bkkdude]
      #13168061 - 11/29/07 07:28 AM

Quote:

hmmm

ok bobo u win.



Edit*
Thank you BKK for bringing Crypto bonuses to my attention, I had previously glanced over them and missed how good they were.

Thank you also for providing me with some good laughs at your ability to comprehend what you read, and put forth a compelling argument to prove your theory.

Edited by thisnamedoesntfi (11/29/07 07:31 AM)


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Re: ipoker bonuses vs. the rest [Re: thisnamedoesntfi]
      #13168084 - 11/29/07 07:34 AM

no problemo sir.

problem at crypto for u is very few plo at micro levels.

t atain the 1 k bonues at crypto u need to learn plo hi and low. during prime time one can multi 7 games, usually 6 hi lo ones and one high only or 5 hi lo ones and 2 hi only.


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Bobo Fett
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Re: ipoker bonuses vs. the rest [Re: bkkdude]
      #13197857 - 12/01/07 05:29 AM

LOL not that serious...you just refused to believe me, so I felt compelled to provide the proof and shut down your "....lol"s for a while.

I agree on Cryptos. Even I make a little more in bonus + rakeback at Crypto than OnGame, but it's not enough to make up for my difference in winrate (or lossrate at Crypto lol). For others, especially FR players, the difference would be more substanital.


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bkkdude
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Re: ipoker bonuses vs. the rest [Re: Bobo Fett]
      #13198400 - 12/01/07 07:44 AM

now u say u better off at crypto re bonus and rkbk.

please do xplain.


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Bobo Fett
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Re: ipoker bonuses vs. the rest [Re: bkkdude]
      #13201185 - 12/01/07 01:59 PM

Quote:

now u say u better off at crypto re bonus and rkbk.

please do xplain.



Not sure what you mean by "now". Do you even read my posts?

I've always said that Crypto bonus + RB is a little better than OnGame at my limits, but the player selection is so much better at OnGame, it easily makes up for this difference and then some.


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Re: ipoker bonuses vs. the rest [Re: Bobo Fett]
      #13210543 - 12/02/07 02:06 AM

wot?

im the one going on about dealt being better than contributed.

now you saying you agree with me.


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Bobo Fett
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Re: ipoker bonuses vs. the rest [Re: bkkdude]
      #13211811 - 12/02/07 03:47 AM

Quote:

wot?

im the one going on about dealt being better than contributed.

now you saying you agree with me.



Sigh. Please tell me you're joking.

I've never stated that contributed was better than dealt, or vice versa, without qualification. IT DEPENDS.


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