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OSUGreg1983
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Downswings at ironic moments?
      #13210495 - 12/02/07 02:02 AM

So we run pretty good for 10k hands at 10NL profiting 28BI's without any significant downswings to speak of. We take a shot at 25NL when we reach a proper bankrolled amount. Now comes chapter 2...

First 315 hands at 25NL we find ourselves losing 4.5BI's with virtually the same statistics (TAGish) as we found ourselves playing at 10NL. Had some bad beats combined with marginal spots which I couldn't decide which way to go.

Now I understand the quality of play is, supposedly, better at 25NL as compared to 10NL, but the irony in the downswing coming the second you move up in limits is a bit demotivating.

My stats for 10NL through 10k hands were 21/17 with a Total AF of 3.6

25NL through 315 hands was 17/16 Total AF of 4.5...I found myself getting played back at when I was raising too many hands, therefore I tightened up my pf hand selection a tad. AF will come down with a larger sample size I think.

After this run I'm forced to move back down to 10NL until I'm bankrolled for 25NL again.

When I try again should I take the same approach? Any thoughts, comments, similar experiences? Do I need to shift my game drastically for 25NL?


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Re: Downswings at ironic moments? [Re: OSUGreg1983]
      #13210552 - 12/02/07 02:07 AM

Mod, is it ok to post this in the Micro Stakes forum? If not where else can I post this?

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Re: Downswings at ironic moments? [Re: OSUGreg1983]
      #13211578 - 12/02/07 03:31 AM

Hi OSUGreg,

Post a similar thread in the micro stakes asking about the difference in play. However, I think the problem you have affects a huge number of players when they move up and IMO there are 2 main issues:

1. The swings become that much greater – fine when you are winning but a few losses and you see your bankroll dwindling at a greater rate than you are used to.
2. This leads on to the second issue – panic sets in and your play alters. You start playing scared. A recipe for disaster.

Just move back down, rebuild, get comfortable and try again. It can take a number of attempts before the previous level is left behind completely. Don’t let ego get in the way – always be prepared to drop back down again. Confidence is the key.


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