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JSampras1
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Stars $50 - AKs reraise OOP
      #13210037 - 12/02/07 01:22 AM

Raiser was a new player, so i had no stats. Sb was also new, but i just saw him call a raise with JT OOP, then check raise all in vs a short stack on a A K 8 flop, so i am assuming he's pretty aggressive.

The reraise is standard right? After i reraise i have to c-bet i think. Should i have bet more? If i bet $13 here i can't really fold right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($20.35)
MP1 ($31.45)
MP2 ($19.50)
CO ($10.90)
Button ($20.85)
SB ($41.30)
Hero ($65)
UTG ($52.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.75, Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $3, Button folds, SB calls $3.

Flop: ($13.50) Q, 2, 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, MP2 folds, SB raises to $17, Hero folds??

The guy is aggro, but do i really want to get the rest in with AK here? Even if he has a flush draw i have no pair, so he has something like 15 outs. But I'm a significant dog to any pair also.

I suck at hands like that. Pls let me know what you think i should have done here.


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Re: Stars $50 - AKs reraise OOP [Re: JSampras1]
      #13210319 - 12/02/07 01:47 AM

Reraise is nonstandard/pathetic. Make it $7 to go here. Your c-bet is too small to take it away from two players and I don't like a c-bet here into a shorty and a LAG. As for the flop raise, this is an insta-fold. Getting all-in once with a big combo draw doesn't make SB a maniac.

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Re: Stars $50 - AKs reraise OOP [Re: AllTheCheese]
      #13210632 - 12/02/07 02:12 AM

Your cbet just got c/r and even if you do hit your A or K you still don't know if you are ahead (especially if its an A or K of hearts). Easy fold.

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JSampras1
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Re: Stars $50 - AKs reraise OOP [Re: gman339]
      #13210684 - 12/02/07 02:17 AM

I never said he was a maniac. He had played 10 hands. That's the only one i saw. Would you prefer no reads on the guy?

Also ok fine, i reraise 7 times his raise preflop. Say they both call. I'm check/folding then? If i made it $7, then isn't check/folding to a short stack all in when i'm getting nearly 2-1 horrible?


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Re: Stars $50 - AKs reraise OOP [Re: JSampras1]
      #13210689 - 12/02/07 02:18 AM

Reraise more preflop.

Given the shortstack and SB's relative position I don't like a c-bet here. Shortstack is shoving with anything reasonable decent probably and SB has a perfect check raise opportunity if he has a good hand since he will trap any dead money the shortstack contributes.


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Re: Stars $50 - AKs reraise OOP [Re: JSampras1]
      #13210798 - 12/02/07 02:28 AM

Quote:

I never said he was a maniac. He had played 10 hands. That's the only one i saw. Would you prefer no reads on the guy?





No. But the hand you gave was very ordinary, and the only reason to consider getting all-in against SB when he check-raises half his stack is because you think he's a maniac who does this a ton with no pair.

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Also ok fine, i reraise 7 times his raise preflop.




Idk, but it seems like you're trying to imply that this is ridiculous. Reraising to $7 is 4x + $1 for every caller + an extra $1 for limper/being OOP. Maybe I'm wrong but I think this is pretty normal.

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Say they both call. I'm check/folding then? If i made it $7, then isn't check/folding to a short stack all in when i'm getting nearly 2-1 horrible?




Reraising to $7 changes the dynamic of the hand entirely. It's much less likely that both will call in the first place.


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