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WCGRider
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QQ PF Decision (100 NL)
      #13197935 - 12/01/07 05:43 AM

Original Raiser is unknown, cold caller is one of the best at these stakes imo.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($57.50)
CO ($125.15)
Hero ($99.50)
SB ($94)
BB ($48.95)
UTG ($57.70)
UTG+1 ($96)
MP1 ($65.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q.
UTG raises to $4, 3 folds, CO calls $4, Hero|Button raises to $16, 2 folds, UTG raises to $57.7, CO folds, Hero|Button ???

2:1 with QQ vs an unkown, whats the plan?


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Re: QQ PF Decision [Re: WCGRider]
      #13197959 - 12/01/07 05:47 AM

You can't raise to $20 and fold for $37 more.

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Re: QQ PF Decision [Re: SABR42]
      #13197969 - 12/01/07 05:48 AM

raise smaller and fold to reraise?

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Re: QQ PF Decision [Re: WCGRider]
      #13197976 - 12/01/07 05:49 AM

Wait, converter messed up, i only raiseed to 16 fwiw

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AllTheCheese
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Re: QQ PF Decision [Re: WCGRider]
      #13198049 - 12/01/07 06:08 AM

Call. Calling is only a small mistake if he's a TAG, but folding is a huge mistake if he's an idiot.

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Re: QQ PF Decision (100 NL) [Re: WCGRider]
      #13208500 - 12/01/07 11:41 PM

Quote:

2:1 with QQ vs an unkown




Pot odds don't really tell the whole story because on a flop of cards all lower than a Q, you are pretty much committing your entire stack post flop if you call for over half your stack preflop. And you certainly can't play for "set value."

So, I think you are in a push/fold situation when UTG reraises to $57.7. And I think folding is better than pushing if you don't have much of a read on a full ring UTG raiser who reraised for over half the effective stacks. I think he shows up with KK-AA too often to push.

Now, if you think this guy pulls this line and calls if you push with a range as wide as {JJ+,AQs+,AKo}, then push. But without a read, fold.

Edited by Albert Moulton (12/01/07 11:44 PM)


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Re: QQ PF Decision (100 NL) [Re: Albert Moulton]
      #13208952 - 12/02/07 12:07 AM

Albert UTG started the hand with only $57.70. Converter messed up. He pushed for $41.70 more after OPs raise. Pretty standard call IMO.

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Re: QQ PF Decision (100 NL) [Re: Chargers In 07]
      #13210079 - 12/02/07 01:25 AM

Given that he's a shortstack, yeah, I'm stacking off here.

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crazymoose
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Re: QQ PF Decision (100 NL) [Re: WCGRider]
      #13210724 - 12/02/07 02:21 AM

Autocall if UTG is anything but an uber nit.

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Re: QQ PF Decision (100 NL) [Re: wikemang]
      #13210756 - 12/02/07 02:23 AM

If he was deeper I'd get away from this, but I think you have to call here considering he's short.

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