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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game? [Re: Assani Fisher]
      #13208356 - 12/01/07 11:32 PM

lol Herbie

"LES MILES IS GOING TO MICHIGAN AND BRINGING THE ST D COORINATOR"

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"LSU SHOULD BE IN THE TITLE GAME!!!!!!!!!"


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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game? [Re: DVaut1]
      #13208365 - 12/01/07 11:32 PM

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So had Va Tech lost to a mediocre team by 40, it would almost be better for them.




And that's why the H2H argument is flawed. Losing to a mediocre team should never be > losing to a really good team. Other things being equal you'd put LSU above Va. Tech because of that game, but other things aren't equal. LSU lost at home to a crap team with everything on the line, and Va. Tech killed all the bad teams they played.

That being said I'd probably still put LSU slightly ahead of Va. Tech but I definitely think Va. Tech > Georgia, USC and Oklahoma.


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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game? [Re: Assani Fisher]
      #13208367 - 12/01/07 11:33 PM

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If Hawaii wins their game tonight, they should be in.




Agreed. As I posted in the other thread, Hawaii has one less loss and a more impressive best victory(Boise St was ranked higher than Michigan) than OSU...why is Ohio St getting the nod?




Unfortunately for your argument, college football isn't a 1 game season.


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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game? [Re: Assani Fisher]
      #13208377 - 12/01/07 11:33 PM

Here's my Top Ten right now:

1. Oklahoma
2. Ohio State
3. USC
4. LSU
5. Missouri
6. Kansas
7. Georgia
8. Florida
9. Virginia Tech
10. Arizona State

I have no idea why Oklahoma's not even in the discussion here. They've beat an otherwise 11-0 Missouri team twice, the second by a very impressive margin, and their only losses came on the road in a letdown game and on the road with their starting QB out. At full power, they've been utterly dominant and I'd expect them to be favored by at least a FG over the Buckeyes.


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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game? [Re: Mike Cuneo]
      #13208385 - 12/01/07 11:34 PM

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You don't have Kansas in there, They are the only other 1 loss team.

Can a team go to the title game if they didn't win their conference?




yes, teams who dont win their conference can go to the title game, which is one of about 5000 reasons the bcs is a [censored] joke




Your argument makes no sense. A playoff system would put a non-conference winner as the national champion far more often then the bcs system does.


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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game? [Re: iggymcfly]
      #13208401 - 12/01/07 11:35 PM

I have no idea why you think Ohio State is higher than 5th?

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pirateboy
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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game? [Re: iggymcfly]
      #13208402 - 12/01/07 11:35 PM

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Here's my Top Ten right now:

1. Oklahoma
2. Ohio State
3. USC
4. LSU
5. Missouri
6. Kansas
7. Georgia
8. Florida
9. Virginia Tech
10. Arizona State

I have no idea why Oklahoma's not even in the discussion here. They've beat an otherwise 11-0 Missouri team twice, the second by a very impressive margin, and their only losses came on the road in a letdown game and on the road with their starting QB out. At full power, they've been utterly dominant and I'd expect them to be favored by at least a FG over the Buckeyes.




Like I said, LSU's SOS >>> OU's SOS.


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Assani Fisher
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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game? [Re: Kos13]
      #13208404 - 12/01/07 11:35 PM

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If Hawaii wins their game tonight, they should be in.




Why? Why why why why why?

This argument should include three teams: Oklahoma, USC, and LSU. I can't comprehend how other people think there should be any other options besides those three teams.




The goal of a season should be to declare an undisputed champ. If Hawaii loses the National title game then whatever team they lost to is the rightful national champ. Every other school would have lost including Hawaii. If Hawaii wins that game, then they've just beaten a tough team(in addittion to already beating a pretty good Boise St team) and they deserve it. Either way, I don't see how thats unfair! Whats unfair is what happened to Boise St last year. Do you not agree that Boise St did not get a fair shake last year in that they were undefeated, beat a solid Oklahoma team, and yet never got a shot at a title? That could happen again this year.


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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game? [Re: iggymcfly]
      #13208407 - 12/01/07 11:35 PM

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I have no idea why Oklahoma's not even in the discussion here.




I'm not saying I disagree that Oklahoma should be in the discussion, but the quality-of-opponents who they lost to (Colorado especially) is much worse than the other teams in the discussion (LSU, OSU, Georgia).


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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game? [Re: iggymcfly]
      #13208417 - 12/01/07 11:36 PM

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