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MyTurn2Raise
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Red Grange--Greatest of All time
      #13202044 - 12/01/07 02:58 PM

according to that ESPN top 25 thing
they screwed up something on their video site and you can watch clips for the top 4

1. Red Grange
2. Barry Sanders
3. Herschel Walker
4. Doak Walker

linky


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: MyTurn2Raise]
      #13203408 - 12/01/07 04:40 PM

This was pretty much a given, wasn't it?

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: BobJoeJim]
      #13203452 - 12/01/07 04:43 PM

I was surprised to see Grange #1....I hoped, but was surprised

I'm excited because it will be more good press for the Illini program


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: MyTurn2Raise]
      #13203609 - 12/01/07 04:54 PM

Can someone post the whole list?

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: Pudge714]
      #13204096 - 12/01/07 05:38 PM

Surprised Jim Thorpe isn't up there.

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: SuperUberBob]
      #13208737 - 12/01/07 11:55 PM

25. Ernie Nevers
24. Reggie Bush
23. Johnny Rodgers
22. George Gipp
21. Archie Griffin
20. Charley Trippi
19. Dick Butkus
18. Jim Brown
17. Bronko Nagurski
16. Tom Harmon
15. John Elway
14. Hugh Green
13. Glenn Davis
12. Earl Campbell
11. Charles Woodson
10. Vince Young
9. Roger Staubach
8. Bo Jackson
7. Tony Dorsett
6. Jim Thorpe
5. Sammy Baugh
4. Doak Walker
3. Herschel Walker
2. Barry Sanders
1. Red Grange


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: Kevmath]
      #13208752 - 12/01/07 11:56 PM

WTF NO TOUCHDOWN TOMMY FRAZIER??????????????

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: ClarkNasty]
      #13208782 - 12/01/07 11:57 PM

I maintain that Woodson is too high

Archie is too low

Reggie Bush shouldn't be on the list

Tommie Frazier seems like a good replacement


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: ClarkNasty]
      #13208788 - 12/01/07 11:58 PM

Quote:

WTF NO TOUCHDOWN TOMMY FRAZIER??????????????




QFT

Also, lol at VY at #10, oh well I suppose it should be obvious that this type of thing is always going to be a joke.


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: MyTurn2Raise]
      #13208805 - 12/01/07 11:59 PM

faulk, frazier>bush

Edited by Victor (12/02/07 12:00 AM)


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: Victor]
      #13208827 - 12/02/07 12:00 AM

oh yeah, Marshall Faulk FTW

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: MyTurn2Raise]
      #13208869 - 12/02/07 12:03 AM

Also personal favorite nominations Jamelle Holieway and Charlie Freaking Ward.

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: ClarkNasty]
      #13208893 - 12/02/07 12:04 AM

I have some book about Holieway from the late 80s....like the Life and Times of OU football or something.... good read about a program out of control but pwning

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: MyTurn2Raise]
      #13209134 - 12/02/07 12:18 AM

Quote:

I have some book about Holieway from the late 80s....like the Life and Times of OU football or something.... good read about a program out of control but pwning




From wiki:
Quote:

He was arrested in Oklahoma for possession of marijuana on July 21, 2007. While being arrested, he showed officers a picture of himself playing football for OU, and repeatedly told them he played football for OU.




lol


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: ClassicBob]
      #13209295 - 12/02/07 12:26 AM

faulk was so sick in college, i used to stay up late just to watch him play when i was in like middle school. sdsu thurs night games were the highlight of the week.

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: Victor]
      #13209715 - 12/02/07 12:56 AM

I think VY was a great player and should be top 10 but Archie Griffin should easily be number 1. How do you iwn 2 Heismans and not be.

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: MEbenhoe]
      #13209776 - 12/02/07 01:00 AM

Quote:

Quote:

WTF NO TOUCHDOWN TOMMY FRAZIER??????????????




QFT

Also, lol at VY at #10, oh well I suppose it should be obvious that this type of thing is always going to be a joke.




VY at 10 seriously made me doubt my ability to understand the sport of football. I need to seriously reconsider my future in the sport if he is the 10th best college player ever.


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: Needle77]
      #13209929 - 12/02/07 01:15 AM

3 out of the top 5 college football players of all time are white? I don't want to play any sort of race card, but I just don't see how this is possible.

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: pokergrader]
      #13210101 - 12/02/07 01:27 AM

I'm not positive (I need to do some research to figure it out), but my great uncle may have blocked for Grange at Illinois. I know he played on the OL and based on his age, I think he may have played with Grange.

BTW, no Lawrence Taylor? Or was his pro career that much better than his college career (which was fantastic)?

EDIT: "The Galloping Ghost" is such a tremendous nickname.


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: pokergrader]
      #13210124 - 12/02/07 01:30 AM

Quote:

3 out of the top 5 college football players of all time are white? I don't want to play any sort of race card, but I just don't see how this is possible.




Um...3 of the top 6, 4 of the top 7, 5 of the top 8, and 6 of the top 10 are black.

Nice arbitrary cutoff you made and I'm not sure I understand your point.


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: Kevmath]
      #13210685 - 12/02/07 02:17 AM

Quote:

25. Ernie Nevers
24. Reggie Bush
23. Johnny Rodgers
22. George Gipp
21. Archie Griffin
20. Charley Trippi
19. Dick Butkus
18. Jim Brown
17. Bronko Nagurski
16. Tom Harmon
15. John Elway
14. Hugh Green
13. Glenn Davis
12. Earl Campbell
11. Charles Woodson
10. Vince Young
9. Roger Staubach
8. Bo Jackson
7. Tony Dorsett
6. Jim Thorpe
5. Sammy Baugh
4. Doak Walker
3. Herschel Walker
2. Barry Sanders
1. Red Grange




Didn't they have a list of the top RBs, and Herschel was No. 1? OJ Simpson was No. 2. Did Grange play another position on defense as well that puts him 1 overall? And how can OJ not be on the list at all?


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: Uncle Wimp]
      #13210769 - 12/02/07 02:24 AM

good question:
How can OJ not be on the list?


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: Uncle Wimp]
      #13210825 - 12/02/07 02:29 AM

Quote:

Did Grange play another position on defense as well that puts him 1 overall?




Yes, Grange played defense
how can one not love The Galloping Ghost?


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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: Uncle Wimp]
      #13210841 - 12/02/07 02:30 AM

Here is a name from the past I'll throw it: Lee Roy Selmon

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Re: Red Grange--Greatest of All time [Re: Kevmath]
      #13210864 - 12/02/07 02:33 AM

I quit paying attention once Jim [censored]***g brown was ranked below Charles Woodson.

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