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Pudge714
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Re: Durrrr in process of losing 60k in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: Jman28]
      #10971417 - 06/28/07 08:27 AM

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I do have to say, though a great poker player, durrrr is one of the biggest prop betting fish I know.



QFT at the PCA he gave odds on RPS.
Jman,
Will there be a recreation of the running prop bet?


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Chump Change
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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: Tulosba]
      #10971419 - 06/28/07 08:27 AM

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?




hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.




you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.



That's not true, a piece advantage would likely be enough for me against a GM if it's not a very fast time control. But a pawn never, i would be crushed. I am rated just above 2000 FIDE.




Well you know that what color you draw as well as what pawn is removed has a great impact. A piece is easily enough and pete_fabrazio is basically correct in his statements.


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Re: Durrrr in process of losing 60k in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: Spechel EDD]
      #10971478 - 06/28/07 08:36 AM

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did curtains try to pull the:
pawn e2 to e4
queen d1 to f3
bishop f1 to c4
queen takes pawn from f3 to f7 checkmate
gg

move because that wouldve been pretty lol to do




I wouldve loved to see:

White-durrrr black-curtains

1. f4 e6
2. g4 Qh4 mate


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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: Chump Change]
      #10971587 - 06/28/07 08:54 AM

A very strong GM getting pawn odds vs a computer - puter crushes him anyway

Pawn's odds are being significantly overrated by some in this thread.


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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: smilingbill]
      #10971689 - 06/28/07 09:10 AM

curtains,

about what uscf rating would you estimate a player would have to carry to be 50/50 with you playing down a knight? down a rook?


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Re: Durrrr in process of losing 60k in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: Jman28]
      #10971747 - 06/28/07 09:18 AM

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I do have to say, though a great poker player, durrrr is one of the biggest prop betting fish I know.





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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: raptor517]
      #10971837 - 06/28/07 09:30 AM

A+ thread.

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Triumph36
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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: 1p0kerboy]
      #10971890 - 06/28/07 09:38 AM

i don't know chess well enough to piece out a match from the notation there - did durrrr make any obvious blunders/hang a piece? down a rook he should be able to force his opponent into trades which give him an edge.

anyway this is obviously awesome


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PocketElevens
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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: pete fabrizio]
      #10971918 - 06/28/07 09:41 AM

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?




hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.




you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.




its really not as easy as you think.




I'm not sure how I would do but I know what I would try.

Right off the hop I'd take every power piece i could that forced him to use his turn to take my piece back. You'd really want to trade queens.

Once you get the superior player down to say his bishop and rook vs your bishop and two rooks (if his mom is cool with it) you're in good shape.


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Phone Booth
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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for raptor [Re: TheMadHeater]
      #10971946 - 06/28/07 09:45 AM

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Also, how does Curtains rate his edge in this game?

Did Durr ever have a chance or did he just bet 60k drawing stone dead....




'i win 100% of the time in this bet' -curtains




I had a feeling.... That's some pretty sick [censored]. 0% chance of beating an IM down a rook. And he originally wanted to play a GM down a knight... What convinced him that this was in any way feasible?




He may have beat a computer that way. Much easier than beating any human GM with the same handicap even if Computer >>>>> Average GM.


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