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pete fabrizio
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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: raptor517]
      #10971051 - 06/28/07 07:18 AM

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?




hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.




you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.




its really not as easy as you think.




i'm not saying anyone who has ever played the game should be able to win this, but any serious chess player -- even one that's not that good among serious chess players -- should. it's kind of like playing nlh with the button every hand.

Edited by pete fabrizio (06/28/07 07:20 AM)


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undercheck
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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: pete fabrizio]
      #10971078 - 06/28/07 07:23 AM

Can you post the games?

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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: pete fabrizio]
      #10971092 - 06/28/07 07:26 AM

Quote:

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Quote:

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?




hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.




you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.




its really not as easy as you think.




i'm not saying anyone who has ever played the game should be able to win this, but any serious chess player -- even one that's not that good among serious chess players -- should. it's kind of like playing nlh with the button every hand.




Good analogy.


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Spechel EDD
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Re: Durrrr in process of losing 60k in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: riverboatking]
      #10971168 - 06/28/07 07:41 AM

did curtains try to pull the:
pawn e2 to e4
queen d1 to f3
bishop f1 to c4
queen takes pawn from f3 to f7 checkmate
gg

move because that wouldve been pretty lol to do


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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: Rolen]
      #10971170 - 06/28/07 07:41 AM

wtf is all this rating of chess players... where does this come from?

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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: pete fabrizio]
      #10971182 - 06/28/07 07:45 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

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Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?




hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.




you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.




its really not as easy as you think.




i'm not saying anyone who has ever played the game should be able to win this, but any serious chess player -- even one that's not that good among serious chess players -- should. it's kind of like playing PLO with the button every hand.




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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: Rolen]
      #10971195 - 06/28/07 07:47 AM

Game 1, I'm white, king's rook is missing. I actually overlooked ...Qxd4.





1.d4 d5 2.c4 Bf5 3.Nc3 c6 4.Bf4 e6 5.c5 Qa5 6.a3 Bxc5 7.dxc5 Qxc5 8.Rc1 d4 9.Ne4 Qa5+ 10.b4 Qxa3 11.Nd6+ Ke7 12.Qxd4 Nd7 13.e4 Bg6 14.Ra1 c5 15.Qxg7 Qxb4+ 16.Bd2 Qd4 17.Qxd4 cxd4 18.Bb4 Kf6 19.f4 e5 20.f5 Bh5 21.h3 Nh6 22.Bd2 Ke7 23.Nxb7 Rab8 24.Na5 Rhc8 25.Bxh6 f6 26.Bc1 Kf7 27.g4 Nc5 28.gxh5 Nxe4 29.Bc4+ Ke8 30.Ne2 Nd6 31.Be6 Rc7 32.Ba3 Ne4 33.Bd5 Nc5 34.Bc6+ Kf8 35.Bxc5+ Kg7 36.Bd6 Rxc6 37.Nxc6 Rb6 38.Rxa7+ Kh6 39.Bf8+ Kxh5 40.Rxh7+ Kg5 41.Ne7 Rb1+ 42.Kf2 d3 43.Bh6+ Kh4 44.Be3# 1-0



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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: pete fabrizio]
      #10971208 - 06/28/07 07:48 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Is durrrr actually any good at chess, or does he just like betting on stuff?




hes not a lot better than me, and i consider myself terrible.




you really have to be quite bad at chess to ever lose with a rook advantage against anyone. just play defensively and force a bunch of trades -- they don't all even have to be even -- and you'll be unstoppable in the endgame. this is why chess is a terrible game to handicap -- a single pawn advantage would be enough to make any competitive player a favorite against the top gm's in the world.



That's not true, a piece advantage would likely be enough for me against a GM if it's not a very fast time control. But a pawn never, i would be crushed. I am rated just above 2000 FIDE.


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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: curtains]
      #10971212 - 06/28/07 07:49 AM

Were you allowed to castle with the missing rook?

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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: Apathy]
      #10971214 - 06/28/07 07:50 AM

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Also Curtains said he can reconstruct the entire match(es) from memory so maybe he would do that for everyone if there is interest (not sure if he would spend time on that or not).




Oh yeah that would be awesome. Plus it wouldn't be that tedious if he's used to typing out notation. A level players should be able to remember a game move for move.

Was durrr drinking/drugging during the match? I can't see him taking this bet without knowing he had a solid chance. In a non-blitz game, an IM giving rook odds to a competent player would be at a disadvantage, though the term 'competent' is relative and might have a different meaning in my head than another's.


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