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NajdorfDefense
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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: El Diablo]
      #10990011 - 06/29/07 01:58 PM

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curtains,

When I was like 7 I used to play chess and I was pretty much the best kid among the kids I played with. ...Anyway, my teacher said I would be awesome if I played more, but I didn't bother. If I had kept playing chess I would totally be able to kick your ass now.




Stop bothering the IM, I will demolish your kingside 8 ways from Sunday for free, Masked Man!

The 'when I was 7 stories' from everyone are always classic. When I was 7, I was the best basketball player in my league, if I had kept playing, I'd beat Kobe Bryant....fo realz yo.


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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: etizzle]
      #10990073 - 06/29/07 02:01 PM

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No [censored] way in hell Im an underdog against the top GM's with pawn odds




I'd pick Morozevich without c2-pawn against you.





Ok I assumed that without a pawn meant the standard f-pawn handicap. Also realize that if you aren't talking about literally the top 10-20 players in the world, I would easily be a favorite IMO. I only have trouble discussing them because I never actually played someone who was currently ranked 1-10 in the world. I have played plenty from 50-100, and there is no way in hell they will back themselves in a match against me starting without a pawn. If they want to they know where to find me.

Let's put it this way. I wouldn't back myself in a match against someone 300 points lower rated than me, if I started without a pawn, although it might be close. That means it should be even less likely that someone 300 points higher rated than me, should feel confident playing me down a pawn. The reason for this is that small advantages have more value when the ratings of the players involved are higher. Note that no one in the world is ranked more than 350 points higher than me.

So logically I either underestimate my abilities to beat a 2150 FIDE player without a pawn (and I really think I'm an underdog), or there is something seriously wrong with these arguments.




curtains after this thread you are now on the very very short list of people from 2p2 i think i would actually enjoy meeting. congrats.




because he's good at chess?


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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: KingDan]
      #10990328 - 06/29/07 02:19 PM

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In a big tourney 1st might be $15,000. On top board, either player who wins would clinch first place. Instead, they usually agree to a quick draw, where they get into a massive 6-7 way tie for first for like $4,000




If they don't trust each other or if they are stupid. If they are friends they can make more money by playing for the win. The "secret" deal is you play for the win and sum the prizes together (1st place share and 2nd place share) they split the prize fund 60% to the winner of the game 40% to the loser.
1st prize $15K, 2nd $10K 4 people in the running. If they all draw it's $6,250. With "the deal" the worse case is you you have two folks tied for 1st & 2nd for $12,500 per share but the folks that have the "deal" split it $7,500 - $5,000.
The best case is that the other guys draw and you have one clear winner of $15K and maybe 2nd gets bundled up so each share is worth $2K in that case the deal runs $10,200 to the winner and $6,800 to loser. It's sort of an "ethical" way to throw a game!? I know of some top players that have done this many many times....


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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: KingDan]
      #10990380 - 06/29/07 02:23 PM

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1) I will wreck anyone here in bughouse no contest




If we get to pick our partners, you name the amount and your FICS user name and we can start discussing a wager.


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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: Punker]
      #10990534 - 06/29/07 02:39 PM

Kingdan on fics and ICC. you?

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GeniusToad
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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: almostbusto]
      #10990580 - 06/29/07 02:43 PM

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I think a lot of people don't realize:
how god awful durr is at chess.
how great curtains actually is (even though he is rusty).
how hard it is for someone at durr's level to even get to the 1200-1400 level (for most people).
how much the clock plays a role in the odds making. ie, greg might be even money against a 1300 down a knight at G60, but a huge favorite at 5 minute blitz chess, and a dead lock at 1 minute chess over the internet.





i think maybe the first few dozen posters didn't realize these things but at this point they're all abundandtly clear - especially the durrrr sucking at chess part.

he has teh gambooool tho.


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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: KingDan]
      #10990661 - 06/29/07 02:50 PM

Do you think you'd still be a favorite if I used a partner of Gnejs or WhoAmI?

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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: Punker]
      #10990744 - 06/29/07 02:55 PM

depends who you are. whats your fics handle

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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: KingDan]
      #10990852 - 06/29/07 03:03 PM

Does anyone play crazyhouse? When you capture a piece it turns to your color and you can place it. Basically 1 board bughouse. It is a lot of fun.

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Re: Durrr in process of losing 60k+ in a chess bet.. good month for ra [Re: chesterboy]
      #10990966 - 06/29/07 03:11 PM

i will wreck (nearly) anyone here at crazyhouse as well

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