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matrix
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Hand Reading Practice
      #12919072 - 11/12/07 06:20 AM

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $54.19
SB: $13.38
BB: $50
UTG: $110.76
CO: $52.02

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG raises to $2.25, CO folds, Hero calls $2.25, 2 folds.

Villain here is ~32/15/5 overall - however this session he's playing mcTAGish 22/17/5 and we are about 60 hands in.

I have noticed that Villain is tight from EP and his standard raise from most positions is 4BB+1.

I have no other reads - Hero is playing standard TAG and villain might think I am a touch on the aggressive side.

i) whats he got? (range please not a 1 hand soul read)
ii) what have I got?
iii)what hands do you call with IP here?

I will post the next street a little later once a few people have had a stab at it and then the turn a little later and so on...


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VLV
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Re: Hand Reading Practice [Re: matrix]
      #12919101 - 11/12/07 06:28 AM

Taking a stab here just for practice:

i)Since he's tight from EP I would give him a pretty strong hand but one that could be a bit vunarable since he bet a fraction more than his standard bet.
22-QQ A9s-AQs AJo, AQo

ii) Given your nice TAGish stats I would have to say:
34s-JQs 22-88, A2s-A9s, ATo, AJo

iii) Given what I think he has from my first point, I would call with:
22-99, AJo, AQo, A9s, ATs, 78s-QKs
With stronger hands I'm obviously raising.

Edited by VLV (11/12/07 06:29 AM)


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Lego05
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Re: Hand Reading Practice [Re: matrix]
      #12919104 - 11/12/07 06:28 AM

i.) He could have a ton of [censored]: 22+,AT+,KQ,maybe suited connectors.

ii.) You could have a ton of [censored]: 22-TT (maybe JJ), suited connectors,AQ,AJ,KQ

iii.) 22-TT(sometimes 3bet TT), suited connectors, sometimes:: AQ, lesser sometimes:: AJ particularly suited, KQs, lesser lesser sometimes:: KQo


Edit: Had 22+ in calling ranges...fixed cause obv some big pairs are gonna be 3bet.

Edited by Lego05 (11/12/07 06:30 AM)


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iheartponeez
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Re: Hand Reading Practice [Re: matrix]
      #12919110 - 11/12/07 06:30 AM

He's got any pocket pair, or AJ+. You have any pocket pair under JJ, suited connectors above 34, AJ, KQ, or AQ.

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Re: Hand Reading Practice [Re: matrix]
      #12919115 - 11/12/07 06:30 AM

His range: AK, AQ, QK and any pocket pair.
Your range: SC, small to medium pocket pair
My range: Your range

This range might be tight tough :x


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ama0330Moderator
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Re: Hand Reading Practice [Re: Lego05]
      #12919124 - 11/12/07 06:32 AM

IMO the ranges here are way too wide from both players to really say with any kind of certainty. I would call here with literally atc planning to take it away against a loose/slagro player who doesnt like to continue or can't handle pressure, and as the villain, if I were him Im happy raising any pair, any high broadway, any suited connector...

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xoom
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Re: Hand Reading Practice [Re: matrix]
      #12919133 - 11/12/07 06:34 AM

i) He's probably raising something like 66+, AJs+.
ii) Villain is very aggressive postflop, so you could be trapping with AA/KK about 10 % of the time. I expect you to re-raise 99+, AQs+ the rest of the time, so low to medium pocket pairs makes up the biggest part of your range.
iii) I'll call with 22-77/88 here I guess. Sometimes I'll call with some SCs (and sometimes fold or re-raise).


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Lego05
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Re: Hand Reading Practice [Re: ama0330]
      #12919138 - 11/12/07 06:36 AM

Yea I really agree with ama. I took a shot but the ranges here are so wide that I don't really see the point....unless you plan to go through each street like this.


If I were villian I could be raising pretty much the range ama said...except I'm not raising all unsuited broadways...like I'm not gonna raise QTo here much.


In hero's spot my calling range is tighter than what ama said....but I kinda think that my calling range pre-flop is generally a bunch tighter than a lot of other people on these boards.


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matrix
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Re: Hand Reading Practice [Re: Lego05]
      #12919139 - 11/12/07 06:36 AM

I should also add that the rest of the table are fishies.

and I have a dose of respect for this villains game - i.e. he is a regular, he has a clue and after a couple of thousand hands in my db he is showing a small profit.


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Re: Hand Reading Practice [Re: Lego05]
      #12919142 - 11/12/07 06:37 AM

1) 22+, AK, AQ, and KQ. IMO villain is raising all pair, as he is aggro and must be somewhat of a reg for you to have a current and overall dataset for him. AK AQ and KQ suited or not I think he is opening with UTG as well.

2) We should be calling with a good sized range here. The villain is imo overly aggro with a 5 TAF and will do a lot of the work for us on every street. We have pos on this player, and because his UTG range is tighter than any other opening pos at the table, imo we should be playing a fairly wide range including all pairs, a large range of SCs and suited one gappers, although folding AJ and worse As, as well as KQ and worse Ks.

3)FFS, my mistake, answer to 3 is covered in my 2


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