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ama0330Moderator
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PSA: One line answers
      #12133839 - 09/18/07 12:18 PM

Im going to start cracking down on one line answers. It is just not good enough to come into a thread and say something like "call" with no justification for why you think that is the best course of action. Obviously, sometimes the hand is very obvious (should I go all in with AA preflop??!! ololool) but most of the threads here require more anaylsis than that.

So in future if I catch you making some weak-sauce reply like "call>>>raise>>>>>fold" and you dont explain your reasoning I'll just delete your post. If you keep on doing it I'll just ban you for a couple of days so you can think about it. These forums exist so we can help one another with our games and one line posts do nothing but clutter threads and piss off moderators.

If you don't know the answer to the hand posted, then ask a question like "should we really be stacking off with AQ here when I think that a big part of his range is sets?" or alternatively, just read and learn.

THANKS

-ama


ps. call>>raise>>>>>fold obv


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traz
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Re: PSA: One line answers [Re: ama0330]
      #12133921 - 09/18/07 12:24 PM

Am I allowed to respond to this thread? It's not locked :P

I think trying to garner more discussion is an admirable goal...but cracking down on one-liners may just encourage the lazy to post less. *Raises hand

Alot of hands really don't need a ton of explanation. If someone doesn't understand the one-liner than they should ask. In addition, sometimes I don't WANT to read alot of analysis. Sometimes I just want a one-line opinion from a bunch of posters.

I think, in general, this kind of rule isn't ideal. I do understand what you're trying to achieve and I trust you'll make sure not to drop the pwnstick unnecessarily. But that's just my opinion.


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ama0330Moderator
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Re: PSA: One line answers [Re: traz]
      #12133990 - 09/18/07 12:30 PM

Im talking about really blatant lack of effort, maybe I should have said one WORD answers instead of one line answers. Like you go into a thread and it says "fold flop". What the hell does that achieve? Nothing. Sure, some hands dont need a great deal of explanation, so make it a brief explanation. Like -

BAD: "Fold flop"

GOOD: "Fold flop. You're usually behind to a set here and preflop action makes it hard for him to have AA/KK"

That extra sentence makes all the difference IMO.


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Nogatsira
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Re: PSA: One line answers [Re: traz]
      #12134008 - 09/18/07 12:31 PM

ama>>rest ldo

No but for real, it's about time someone steps up!
I notice myself posting some very short replies sometimes and it really blows because honestly nobody learns anything from it.
There is, or there should be, an explanation for every move you do while you're playing, so you might aswell type the reasoning with it to help others or to find leaks in your own thoughts.

A+ thread!


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0524432
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Re: PSA: One line answers [Re: ama0330]
      #12134059 - 09/18/07 12:34 PM

Good point ama, I will make a point to keep myself in line as well.

However, I'd like you to address the idea of having the outcome of the hand in white txt at the end of the HH.( Example: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=1#Post12128482 ) I think this is a great way of still allowing the users to read through the lines, while still seeing some real results and how the villain played what etc...


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JimboNYY24
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Re: PSA: One line answers [Re: Nogatsira]
      #12134078 - 09/18/07 12:35 PM

good idea

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Nogatsira
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Re: PSA: One line answers [Re: 0524432]
      #12134094 - 09/18/07 12:37 PM

Quote:

Good point ama, I will make a point to keep myself in line as well.

However, I'd like you to address the idea of having the outcome of the hand in white txt at the end of the HH.( Example: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=1#Post12128482 ) I think this is a great way of still allowing the users to read through the lines, while still seeing some real results and how the villain played what etc...




You shouldnt even care what the results are. In this particular situation villain might have the nuts, in another he might have air.
You want to find a sollution to play a hand that would make most profit in the long run.
You might think a call is good in a hand and the results show you that it was a good call but actually it might have been a bad play (if you understand what i mean)


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hennnerz
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Re: PSA: One line answers [Re: JimboNYY24]
      #12134175 - 09/18/07 12:43 PM

Quote:

good idea




2 day ban plz.

EDIT: Because he didn't explain his response.

Edited by hennnerz (09/18/07 12:44 PM)


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z28dreams
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Re: PSA: One line answers [Re: hennnerz]
      #12134213 - 09/18/07 12:46 PM

Seriously....

I think people should have to post their BB/100 winrate next to their advice as well.

SOOOOOOO much bad advice on here it's not even funny.


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Nogatsira
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Re: PSA: One line answers [Re: z28dreams]
      #12134245 - 09/18/07 12:49 PM

Quote:

Seriously....

I think people should have to post their BB/100 winrate next to their advice as well.

SOOOOOOO much bad advice on here it's not even funny.




Thats why the reasoning behind their post would be good. If they say "call" then nobody knows why.
If they say "call because . . . ." then other people will see aswell if its a stupid answer or not or atleast discuss it.
There's no reason to post BB/100 because you would need to post a samplesize, the limits, amount of tables, ... and all other stuff aswell and it would still be bs. Everyone inhere is a uNL player


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