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wisehandpoker
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Re: Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold [Re: iAmAddicted]
#8646498 - 01/03/07 07:01 PM

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daniel needs to keep his mouth shut for once in his life. Daniel, you are a poker player, and the whole world does not care of your opinion on every matter. We don't need to know who you think is good, who you think is a donk and who you have high school like quibbles with. Enough Daniel!

I found this post ironic

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Daliman
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Re: Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold [Re: Ian J]
#8646722 - 01/03/07 07:21 PM

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Expert stuff right here. Let's call 120 pre w/ 8 high to win 500 more on the flop.

Rolgues Rodriguez Eliminated 24th ($50,745)
Joe Hachem limps in, Mats Rahmn limps and Rolgues Rodriquez raises $100,000 more. Both players call and the flop comes 6s4s2s. Rodriquez moves all in for just over $500,000 and Hachem moves all in on top. Rahmn folds and Rodriquez turns over AdAh. However, Hachem flips over 8s7s for a flush. The turn is the Jh and the river comes the 4c. Rodriquez is eliminated from the tournament and Hachem increases his stack to around $2,600,000 chips.

Sounds like about 620K more, so over 5-1. Sounds good to me.

Do you even understand NL poker?

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Daliman
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Re: Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold [Re: kemystery]
#8646732 - 01/03/07 07:22 PM

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doesn't seidel have like 8 bracelets? well thought out list DN

I think the 2nd list has more bracelets, too, as I think list one has 15, PH 10 and PI 5.

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Re: Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold [Re: Dids]
#8646764 - 01/03/07 07:25 PM

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Dan N. has come off like a pretty immature and petty guy pretty much always.

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Re: Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold [Re: kemystery]
#8647073 - 01/03/07 07:53 PM

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doesn't seidel have like 8 bracelets? well thought out list DN

DN is saying that the Seidel's strategy is good for lower buy-in WSOP events, but bad for the WPT. He may have a point. I think most of us can agree that regardless of the lawsuit status, Seidel, Raymer, and Ferguson have been spectacularly unsuccessful in WPT events, while Mizrachi, Lindgren, Hansen and Tuan Le have been unsuccessful in the WSOP. Not sure why DN lists Hellmuth in the first group. He does play a form of "small ball" but seems pretty dissimilar to the others on the first list.

Edited by NickMPK (01/03/07 07:56 PM)

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Pudge714
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Re: Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold [Re: NickMPK]
#8647171 - 01/03/07 08:01 PM

Mediocre Player
Tournament poker =! Cash games

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HOWMANY
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Re: Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold [Re: NickMPK]
#8647190 - 01/03/07 08:03 PM

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Seidel, Raymer, and Ferguson have been spectacularly unsuccessful in WPT events

It's sort of hard to win events that you don't play in.

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surfinillini
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Re: Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold [Re: HOWMANY]
#8647638 - 01/03/07 08:44 PM

wtf no raymer response yet?

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pig4bill
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Re: Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold [Re: NickMPK]
#8647803 - 01/03/07 09:01 PM

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doesn't seidel have like 8 bracelets? well thought out list DN

DN is saying that the Seidel's strategy is good for lower buy-in WSOP events, but bad for the WPT. He may have a point. I think most of us can agree that regardless of the lawsuit status, Seidel, Raymer, and Ferguson have been spectacularly unsuccessful in WPT events, while Mizrachi, Lindgren, Hansen and Tuan Le have been unsuccessful in the WSOP. Not sure why DN lists Hellmuth in the first group. He does play a form of "small ball" but seems pretty dissimilar to the others on the first list.

At least DN has proved he's not a sockpuppet for the WPT.

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Re: Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold [Re: Blizzardbaum]
#8647967 - 01/03/07 09:15 PM

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If Raymer wanted to get catty again he could ask Daniel how many times he's cashed in live events with over 2000 people. I think Raymer was 5 for 5 before the ME this summer.

No. I failed to cash in at least 3 of these events in 2006, so that's not a good category anymore.

If I wanted to get catty, I'd say it's better to beat 400-800 (which I have done consistently in mixed games) than to lose at 4000-8000.

;-)

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

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