Ressurected bu not Divine?

[David Sklansky]

Just wondering if any religion believes that. In other words his resurrection was merely another miracle God used to prove who he wants followed.

[Stu Pidasso]

Unitarians reject the divinity of Christ.

Stu

[RJT]

Not that I am aware of.

RJT

[IronUnkind]

Islam, sort of.

[IronUnkind]

But they also tend to reject his resurrection.

[Shandrax]

Every man with some sort of common sense rejects the resurrection of Jesus - although "common sense" and "religion" don't fit together well.

If there is anything to the story at all, then the most likely explanation is that he survived the initial attempt of execution. Especially with this sort of execution where death comes slowly by suffocation, it is not unlikely that they took him off too early - or just in time, whatever version you prefer.

The theory of Occam's razor applies once again. At least makes the miracle appear to be rather unlikely.

What religions in their fraud attempts tend to make out of it, I don't know....and I don't care.

[The Dude]

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus was the Messiah and was resurrected, but that he is only human - not divine in any way. However, if you're looking for a religion that's closer than Christianity to what you see as rational, you'll not find it here. Since I generally try not to put down whole groups of people, I'll abstain from giving specifics unless someone asks directly.

[Bigdaddydvo]

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Every man with some sort of common sense rejects the resurrection of Jesus - although "common sense" and "religion" don't fit together well.

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The intellectual bankruptcy of your post starts as many like it do-with a gross and an overextending generalization.

[MidGe]

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Every man with some sort of common sense rejects the resurrection of Jesus - although "common sense" and "religion" don't fit together well.

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The intellectual bankruptcy of your post starts as many like it do-with a gross and an overextending generalization.

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bigdaddydvo,

I am dissapointed with your post. You seem to be a more coherent and genuine guy than a lot of religionists, usually.

Of course, "the resurrection of Jesus", is miraculous, at least, even by your standards, no?

[Bigdaddydvo]

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Every man with some sort of common sense rejects the resurrection of Jesus - although "common sense" and "religion" don't fit together well.

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The intellectual bankruptcy of your post starts as many like it do-with a gross and an overextending generalization.

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bigdaddydvo,

I am dissapointed with your post. You seem to be a more coherent and genuine guy than a lot of religionists, usually.

Of course, "the resurrection of Jesus", is miraculous, at least, even by your standards, no?

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Of course the Resurrection is miraculous. I dispute the poster's assertion that "common sense" and "faith" are 100% mutually exclusive.

[wmonfor]

Are we talking specifically about Christ? If you count ancient greek religion, there are many examples of a mortal traveling to the underworld and returning. However, among modern religions the only example i can think of is Lazarus.

[Shandrax]

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Every man with some sort of common sense rejects the resurrection of Jesus - although "common sense" and "religion" don't fit together well.

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The intellectual bankruptcy of your post starts as many like it do-with a gross and an overextending generalization.

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Believing into "miracles" doesn't actually make you look any smarter than me.

[billygrippo]

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Every man with some sort of common sense rejects the resurrection of Jesus - although "common sense" and "religion" don't fit together well.

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The intellectual bankruptcy of your post starts as many like it do-with a gross and an overextending generalization.

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Believing into "miracles" doesn't actually make you look any smarter than me.

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zing!!!

[Bigdaddydvo]

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Every man with some sort of common sense rejects the resurrection of Jesus - although "common sense" and "religion" don't fit together well.

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The intellectual bankruptcy of your post starts as many like it do-with a gross and an overextending generalization.

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Believing into "miracles" doesn't actually make you look any smarter than me.

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Nor was my belief intended to. I'm simply challenging your baseless assertion that believers always and necessarily lack common sense.

[LadyWrestler]

"Every man with some sort of common sense rejects the resurrection of Jesus - although "common sense" and "religion" don't fit together well.

"If there is anything to the story at all, then the most likely explanation is that he survived the initial attempt of execution. Especially with this sort of execution where death comes slowly by suffocation, it is not unlikely that they took him off too early - or just in time, whatever version you prefer.

"The theory of Occam's razor applies once again. At least makes the miracle appear to be rather unlikely.

"What religions in their fraud attempts tend to make out of it, I don't know....and I don't care."

-Shandrax

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Rhetorical questions based on the above...no written answers required:

Are you sure you want to use that as support for your belief in common sense? Have you read the gospels and the book of Acts? Have you looked into the ancient evidence supporting the 5 books? Do you believe anything that you have not seen with your own eyes? Do you believe there was a Roman Empire? Do you believe Julius Caesar existed? Alexander the Great? Jesus? Mohammed? Do you really believe the Romans could not tell if Jesus was dead or alive when they took him off the cross? Do you believe the Biblical writers made it up? Do you believe Peter suddenly had a change of heart and found his courage based on nothing? Really? Common sense? Really?

If so, Okay then. If that is what you really want to stand on, mmm...go for it...

[MidGe]

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Heya bigdaddydvo,

I see your point. In fact you can say that faith is very much "common" sense (albeit in many variations) since the great majority of people decide to take on a faith of sort.

Thanks for your amplification, and yes, in that respect, I lack common sense. /images/graemlins/smile.gif OTOH, common sense may not be the best or correct conclusion.

[SNOWBALL]

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The intellectual bankruptcy of your post starts as many like it do-with a gross and an overextending generalization.

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