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AJFenix
01-10-2006, 09:53 PM
Assuming he was a real person, what would he have looked like? If you read this GodBoy, what did he look like in your visions? He didn't happen to look like this guy did he?


http://www.asn-ibk.ac.at/bildung/faecher/geschichte/maike/monalisa/genealogy/1359.jpg

http://www.paradoxplace.com/Perspectives/Italian%20Images/images/Portraits/Borgias/Melone-Cesare-Borgia%20BR.jpg

http://www.aiwaz.net/encyclopedia/images/borgia.jpg

http://www.rumburak.website.pl/artykuly/img/cesare.jpg

BluffTHIS!
01-10-2006, 10:03 PM
He IS a real person. And his earthly body most likely looked like that of person of middle eastern stock like the jews or palestinians who are native to that region.

jokerthief
01-10-2006, 10:12 PM
Serious question, what is the point of this thread?

Hopey
01-10-2006, 10:13 PM
http://www.namedbystrangers.com/summer04/hippy.jpg

AJFenix
01-10-2006, 10:28 PM
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Serious question, what is the point of this thread?

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To point out that the image of Christ commonly portrayed today is actually that of Cesare Borgia. Given the Italian background and traits of Borgia, Jesus would not have looked anything like what most people imagine.

AJFenix
01-10-2006, 10:32 PM
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He IS a real person.

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It doesn't seem like that was the clear consensus last time this was argued.

Peter666
01-10-2006, 10:42 PM
"To point out that the image of Christ commonly portrayed today is actually that of Cesare Borgia."

This is not true at all. Any history of Art book will show you otherwise.

yukoncpa
01-10-2006, 10:45 PM
Here he is:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcfa.htm

jokerthief
01-10-2006, 10:46 PM
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Serious question, what is the point of this thread?

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To point out that the image of Christ commonly portrayed today is actually that of Cesare Borgia. Given the Italian background and traits of Borgia, Jesus would not have looked anything like what most people imagine.

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Fair enough.

ScottieK
01-10-2006, 10:46 PM
This is too easy.

http://www.pokerlistings.com/photos/chris-ferguson_643.jpg

End of thread.

ScottieK

hashi92
01-10-2006, 11:15 PM
they did something like this on G4TV once. it was called bum or jesus. it was pretty funny.

AJFenix
01-10-2006, 11:21 PM
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This is not true at all. Any history of Art book will show you otherwise.

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Is that so? Cesare Borgia's face was CLEARLY used and presented as that of Christ's in numerous paintings from that time period, and since then it has been replicated and that image of Christ has been retained.

http://www.asn-ibk.ac.at/bildung/faecher/geschichte/maike/monalisa/g_eng/1360.jpg

"Cesare Borgia and probably his mother as the crucified Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary, c. 1507/1508"



Art history books can clearly show that before that time period images of Christ had a LOT of variation.

How about Jesus Christ taking over from where Apollo left off, in a fiery chariot, 2nd Century:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/Jc-sun-god.jpg

Lets compare Apollo and Christ again:

Good Shepard Apollo:

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/apollo-6th-c-athens.jpg

Good Shepard Jesus:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/jesus_4thshepherd.jpg

Interesting... creating a figure to take the role of another figure people worshipped, in an updated religion.

4th Century:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/Sarcophagus--Ju.jpg

5th Century:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/jc-6th-shepherd-cross.jpg

6th Century:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/jc-6th.jpg

11th Century:

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/jc-11th-pantocrator-mos-chr.jpg

12th century:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/jc-12th-Rus-fresco.jpg

Kneel B4 Zod
01-10-2006, 11:21 PM
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9418/burgerking1504tb.jpg

bocablkr
01-10-2006, 11:34 PM
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This is too easy.

http://www.pokerlistings.com/photos/chris-ferguson_643.jpg

End of thread.

ScottieK

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Beat me to it. Good catch.

MidGe
01-10-2006, 11:40 PM
Considering other threads, this thread should be headed what does your Jesus/vision/hallucination looks like?

Peter666
01-11-2006, 01:16 AM
Look at Michaelangelo's Christ from the same time period and you will see a total difference.

And are we talking about the young Jesus, crucified Christ, Ressurrected Christ? This issue is really a non-starter. Most images today will resemble the Shroud of Turin. Many of the images from the past will be reflective of the ancient icons, and the medieval representations of Dom Frangelico.

The people in the film the "Passion of the Christ" due to its historical detail will be accurate reflections of what everyone looked like.

ThinkQuick
01-11-2006, 04:21 AM
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The people in the film the "Passion of the Christ" due to its historical detail will be accurate reflections of what everyone looked like.

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This is obscenely ridiculous. I don't even know that much Christian lore and there are things that even I know are obvious innacuracies in the Passion.

Jesus would definitely look semetic, the religioustolerance picture is below. Even Jews believe that he did exist, and there is some mention of him in scripture. I don't think that the fact that his depictions are based on regional styles is any knock against Jesus being a real person.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/jesusface.jpg

Peter666
01-11-2006, 04:58 AM
Ugh, how do the people in the film not look semitic? Or do all semitic people look like half neanderthal retards like the pic above?

Peter666
01-11-2006, 05:03 AM
That Religious Tolerance Association of Ontario is full of jack asses. They take any old skull from 1st Century AD and conclude: yup, that must be what Jesus looked like.

Go to a graveyard today, take a skull, ask an artist to reconstruct it for you and then come to the logical conclusion that it must look like you. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

diebitter
01-11-2006, 05:12 AM
Like this, obviously:

http://justanotherbeth.album.atomic-systems.com/showPic.php/10252/buddychrist.jpg

diebitter
01-11-2006, 05:17 AM
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Jesus would definitely look semetic, the religioustolerance picture is below. Even Jews believe that he did exist, and there is some mention of him in scripture.

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Really, Holmes? It wasn't the gospels, was it?

godBoy
01-11-2006, 06:00 AM
Np, not really.
A bit roupher, more worn. He was a tradie.

godBoy
01-11-2006, 06:06 AM
I reckon Jesus was a lot uglier than this bloke.

godBoy
01-11-2006, 06:07 AM
I agree with him.

mackthefork
01-11-2006, 07:28 AM
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Ugh, how do the people in the film not look semitic? Or do all semitic people look like half neanderthal retards like the pic above?

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That's more or less exactly what he might have looked like, I'm sure you Christian types will go on believing he was a white American born in Ohio though.

Mack

Peter666
01-11-2006, 08:09 AM
We have the Shroud of Turin. We don't need the make-believe reconstruction by a group of weirdos from Ontario.

"That's more or less exactly what he might have looked like"

That's a great sentence.

mackthefork
01-11-2006, 08:33 AM
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That's a great sentence.


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He was a black Arab. If symantics over grammar is the best argument you can come up with, then your case is weak. Besides this is the internet, informal language heaven.

Regards Mack

Peter666
01-11-2006, 09:19 AM
Don't be so touchy. You said it is "more or less what he might have looked like" That's like saying "he probably may have not looked like this improbably."

Jesus still looks like the Shroud of Turin Jesus or the happy Sacred Heart Jesus.

AJFenix
01-11-2006, 01:21 PM
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Don't be so touchy. You said it is "more or less what he might have looked like" That's like saying "he probably may have not looked like this improbably."

Jesus still looks like the Shroud of Turin Jesus or the happy Sacred Heart Jesus.

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You cannot honestly be using the Shroud of Turin (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3624753.stm) as an arguement for what Jesus looked like. Even the Catholic church, all the way up to the pope, is and has been EXTREMELY sceptical about it.

Kurn, son of Mogh
01-11-2006, 03:15 PM
While I'd expect some guy named "Jesus" to look sort of like Pedro Martinez, I'll go out on a limb and say that considering where he was from, he probably looked more like Yasser Arafat.

amirite
01-11-2006, 05:02 PM
http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~rb224/images/fonz.jpg

Peter666
01-12-2006, 04:05 AM
The Catholic Church has not been sceptical about it. The article you presented is innacurate in many ways. This is common when secular sources are dealing with religious topics. They often don't have a clue.