Bodog question

[vipchump]

Just recently got into Bodog tournies.

I'm wondering if its legit to withdraw $1k from bodog after clearing bonus, and then immediately depositing it again? Or vice versa - depost 1k, then withdraw immediately, and still get the 10%.

Also, how do each of you track the bonus efficiently? Doesn't seem to be a good way.

Thanks.

[milenky]

taken from the bodog site.

Bonuses are issued for new money only, withdrawing and re-depositing money back into your account will not earn bonuses. You may use your bonus to place bets online in the sportsbook, purchase casino chips or play in the poker room.

I've reupped and got the 10% bonus after a withdraw, but the timeframe was months apart.

I'm assuming this is for use in the poker room, if so it wouldn't be a bad idea, you'd need to build up 300 poker points before withdraw.

for the sportsbook, it's a little more ridiculous, 3x the bonus + amount deposited before it's cleared.

[Niediam]

You can, but if you do it a lot they get pissy about it. I suggest withdrawing, giving them a little action over a few days, and then depositing.

[arardor]

I have gotten support to make it clear to me that this bonus is for their losing players. They want you to go broke before getting another bonus.

According to them there is never a situation where you should whore this bonus and eventually they will say something.

[DonkeyKongThe3rd]

This is what I've heard from other players that have bonus whored there. (Sports betting, Poker and/or casino games)

You can NOT make a withdraw before you clear the bonus or you lose the amount of the bonus. In fact, this happened to me. 2-3 months ago I deposited $350 and got a $35 (10%) bonus. Last week I tried to withdraw the remaining balance ($270) and they stated that I haven't cleared the bonus and if I proceed with the withdraw they would only pay me $235. ($270-$35) and my bonus would be forfeited.

Also, you have to wait at least 7 days after you withdraw before you can make another deposit, otherwise you don't get the 10% reload bonus.

Hope this helps.

[playersare]

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Also, you have to wait at least 7 days after you withdraw before you can make another deposit, otherwise you don't get the 10% reload bonus.

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you don't HAVE to do this, but it's somewhat recommended to avoid getting on their bad side in the long run (since they are one of the only sportsbooks that give unlimited reload bonuses to net positive accounts). but I've certainly withdrew and then redeposited the next day sometimes, and still got the bonus.

[tehox]

Just don't overdo it, give some cover play, and a little time between deposits. They def will crack down if you overdo it, they used to do a 20% bonus but stopped it for this reason.

[playersare]

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they used to do a 20% bonus but stopped it for this reason.

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an unlimited 5x(D+B)/20% sports bonus cannot be sustained in the long run by any legimate sportsbook, especially one that gives them to both winners and losers alike. it essentially reduces their net vig down to about 1% on all wagers, and then the sharp players will torch their soft lines on top of that.

I've withdrawn more than $10K surplus from them in my career and they still lay out the welcome mat. Calvin Ayre, you my man but you crazy.

[CalvinTy]

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they used to do a 20% bonus but stopped it for this reason.

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an unlimited 5x(D+B)/20% sports bonus cannot be sustained in the long run by any legimate sportsbook, especially one that gives them to both winners and losers alike. it essentially reduces their net vig down to about 1% on all wagers, and then the sharp players will torch their soft lines on top of that.

I've withdrawn more than $10K surplus from them in my career and they still lay out the welcome mat. Calvin Ayre, you my man but you crazy.

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playersare:

Since you are apparently a long-time customer at bodog sportsbook like I am, I had a question that I always wanted to ask another bodog fellow. I may be 'grandfathered' or such, but wondering if you get the bonus recorded as 'redeemed' only after 1xB instead of the current 3xD+B method?

I have *always* seen my bonuses as redeemed as 1xB immediately after 1xB criteria was met since I started an account there uhh around 2 years ago. For instance, last week, I returned back there & put 1.5K (and got $150 10% bonus). I made several bets combining into $150 in like 2 days, and my bonus amount was redeemed by then.

For others:

I initially was their great customer (losing the bonuses back to them as well as my own moola) but with any deposit I made, I always gotten 20% (then now 10%) even after doing withdrawals. Usually, I don't withdraw anyway becuz keeping your acct padded helps you to make proportional bets (i.e. 1% of ur BR for one actual bet is now higher as your BR keeps climbing w/o withdrawing, that's my "preference").

I remember making like making 1 $500 deposit via direct check every week or every other week for 2 or 3 months & Bodog always gave me the bonus regardless if I ran hot during that time.

Seems like the key here is to just give some cover play like at some poker sites (UB bonuses, etc).

* CalvinTy

[delexaet]

just withdraw and do the bonuses on another site. Once you clear that bonus come back to bodog. wouldnt that be the best solution?

[CalvinTy]

True, it would be the best solution if I was told by bodog that "we are not giving bonus anymore to you because.....". Until then, I can make deposits & still get 10% bonus every time...even with an existing balance. Some sportsbooks give you a re-up bonus only with an empty balance, etc.

When I hit other sites, I normally prefer to deposit as much as I can initially to max their deposit bonus (usually 20%) but the WR can be QUITE high.... so I don't do that practice much..

unlike at poker sites, no reason to keep money in 5-7 poker sites if you play at 1 or 2 for that month, etc.... while for sportsbooks, I love to shop around for best line so I have small balances spread out so "hunting for bonuses" aren't on top of my mind... that's why bodog's bonus have been simply so convenient...

* CalvinTy

[DonkeyKongThe3rd]

How much "cover play" do you guys suggest? Like if you have to get 100 poker points to clear your bonus, do you go for 5-10% more? Or 25-35%?

Also, for the people who have had problems in the past, do they just refuse to credit you a bonus but still accept your action? Or do they just close down your account and confiscate your money?

[playersare]

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Since you are apparently a long-time customer at bodog sportsbook like I am, I had a question that I always wanted to ask another bodog fellow. I may be 'grandfathered' or such, but wondering if you get the bonus recorded as 'redeemed' only after 1xB instead of the current 3xD+B method?

I have *always* seen my bonuses as redeemed as 1xB immediately after 1xB criteria was met since I started an account there uhh around 2 years ago. For instance, last week, I returned back there & put 1.5K (and got $150 10% bonus). I made several bets combining into $150 in like 2 days, and my bonus amount was redeemed by then.

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that "redeem" function in bodog's cashier is pretty much useless and I don't know why they still have that in the menu, you can 'redeem' your bonus by placing 1xB your sports wager, or you can even sit down at a poker or casino game with the same amount and get up without even playing a single hand, and it will be "redeemed". it really is completely irrelevant because your bonus is not CLEARED until you complete the appropriate WR for your method of play (sports / casino / poker).

I think what you are trying to insinuate is that new Bodog signups would have to wager 3x or 5x(D+B) in order to 'redeem' their bonus in the first place (meaning, just to wager with, not withdraw) instead of 1xB, this is almost certainly not true. everyone gets their bonus up front just like they would depositing at any other sportsbook. it's just confusing to some of the poker-only players (and sometimes casino, depending on the site) we have on 2+2 because that's the opposite of what they're used to.

as for cover play after clearing bonuses and then redepositing, the mere fact that they allow reloads to net positive accounts in the first place shows that they probably don't give too much of a damn. however, some hardcore Bodog poker whores have been given a warning about it in the past. however, those were only warnings, I have not heard of anyone who actually ever got completely bonus banned there. my suggestion is to wait 3-5 days between reloads just to be safe. again, I've reloaded within 24 hours of a withdrawal before and I got the bonus, no questions asked.

[CalvinTy]

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I think what you are trying to insinuate is that new Bodog signups would have to wager 3x or 5x(D+B) in order to 'redeem' their bonus in the first place (meaning, just to wager with, not withdraw) instead of 1xB, this is almost certainly not true. everyone gets their bonus up front just like they would depositing at any other sportsbook. it's just confusing to some of the poker-only players (and sometimes casino, depending on the site) we have on 2+2 because that's the opposite of what they're used to.

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Thanks for your reply about the redeemed 'bug', now I know more & realizing that I still have to make sure I do follow their reload bonus rules for sportsbook side if I want to make a withdrawal soon. Regarding above quote, oh, my apologizes if I have confused anyone because that was not a planned insinuation. I went off on a tangent asking about a sort-of-related-but-not-really bonus clearing question on the sportsbook side, instead of the poker side. I could have PM you instead of confusing people here, but got lazy and "pressed reply" instead. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

To reiterate for all, yeah, with the 10% bonus given to everyone up front when they make a deposit, like DonkeyKongThe3rd contributed earlier, if playing poker only, then needing 3 Bodog Poker Points for every $1 bonus given before making *any* withdrawal. (Bodog Reload Bonus rules (https://www.bodog.com/bonuses/reloadBonus.jsp))

I also agree that once you clear the corresponding requirements for any withdrawal, and indeed withdraw.... it doesn't seem like there is any other "catch" or a specific window for anyone to wait before re-depositing & get the reload bonus.

Sorry for any confusion, all.

* CalvinTy