Tell ESPN, FSN about card player link, poker bill

[swarthybear]

ESPN and FSN can really help. I haven't seen a story yet, so I'm guessing they aren't aware of the proposed bill.
The more people who email their writers and feedback people, the more likely we'll see a story on T.V. and that could be disaster for the bill if the story goes mainstream national on a consistent basis.

http://www.cardplayer.com/pokerlaw/

[PocketAces]

Wrong. This bill is going to pass and there's nothing that online players can do to stop it.

In fact, the March 24, 2006 edition of the Kiplinger Letter predicts that Congress will ban online gambling this year.

I LOVE poker, but I'm far from convinced that defeating this bill is necessary to "save poker". Card Player just wants to save its revenue stream from all the new players signing up through the magazine.

In the wake of recent scandals involving multi-tabling and the admitted fact that players regularly collude by playing at the same tables and sharing information about their hands, I will not be at all sad to see online gambling get banned. Let the games continue to thrive at B&M cardrooms, where the games are more honest and the money is won by the most skilled players, not the ones who know the most cheaters who play online.

[MCS]

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I will not be at all sad to see online gambling get banned. Let the games continue to thrive at B&M cardrooms

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As someone who lives about seven hours from the nearest B&M cardroom, I would be quite sad about this.

[CitiMan]

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Wrong. This bill is going to pass and there's nothing that online players can do to stop it.


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If everyone was as confident as you this bill would pass Party Gaming, SportingBet.com, 888.com along with all the other gambling websites would have already had their stock price fall through the floor, which as of today hasn't happened.

[zimmer879]

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This bill is going to pass and there's nothing that online players can do to stop it.


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What is your story? You have a hundred posts, the last third of which consist of nothing more than statements like this.

[swarthybear]

Well I would move to a different country if this became true, but oh, I guess not, I live in Vegas. Although most of us know pocketaces is wrong, and is probably a republican paid to post in forums like this. By the way, I win online all the time and I don't cheat. So get over the bitter banter. You aren't good enough to win online, and B&M games at low and medium stakes are much softer, at least in Vegas.

[Rick Nebiolo]

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Well I would move to a different country if this became true, but oh, I guess not, I live in Vegas. Although most of us know pocketaces is wrong, and is probably a republican paid to post in forums like this. By the way, I win online all the time and I don't cheat. So get over the bitter banter. You aren't good enough to win online, and B&M games at low and medium stakes are much softer, at least in Vegas.

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If online poker is banned (or effectively banned by eliminating funding accounts for the average player) the B&M games will be deluged by decent to tough online players who are now disconnected from the regular workforce and decide to move to major poker areas such as LA, LV, AC, Tunica and so on.

If online is banned, the B&M games will get much tougher. Count on it.

~ Rick

[ChrisAJ]

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Well I would move to a different country if this became true, but oh, I guess not, I live in Vegas. Although most of us know pocketaces is wrong, and is probably a republican paid to post in forums like this. By the way, I win online all the time and I don't cheat. So get over the bitter banter. You aren't good enough to win online, and B&M games at low and medium stakes are much softer, at least in Vegas.

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Bear, I'm a Republican. Granted, I lean a little more to the Libertarian side, but do you have a problem with my posts?

[MNpoker]

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Let the games continue to thrive at B&M cardrooms, where the games are more honest and the money is won by the most skilled players, not the ones who know the most cheaters who play online.

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I am always far more worried in a B&M than online. Personally I could never spot two professional cheats working together.

I'm not convinced this is a ture statement. Cheating occurs everywhere, I would guess it's less prevalent online.

- Can't mark cards
- The 'Casino' knows everyones hole cards and can look back to check for collusion

[DavidNB]

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Wrong. This bill is going to pass and there's nothing that online players can do to stop it.


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If everyone was as confident as you this bill would pass Party Gaming, SportingBet.com, 888.com along with all the other gambling websites would have already had their stock price fall through the floor, which as of today hasn't happened.

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Why would they fall to the floor? There are more then AMericans playing on line poker. Sure there may be a small dent in the number of online players but I can't see the bottom falling out off on-line poker.

[PocketAces]

I disagree with that statement. What is to prevent a player from opening multiple accounts through multiple ISP's? For example, I could, if I wanted, open accounts with Time Warner, AOL, Earthlink and others, then open multiple accounts with an online poker site.

What would keep me from sharing information with other players that I knew who were in the same game? It is far easier to do that in on online game that it would be to pass signals at a B&M cardroom.

How often do the online sites really check for this sort of collusion, if other posters here have openly admitted this type of behavior occurs regularly?

[PocketAces]

What is your basis for believing that Congress won't ban online gambling?

I'm neither a Republican or paid to post in any forum.

If you win online and don't multitable or collude with others or use multiple accounts, kudos to you. I'm not bitter because my losses in online play have been small and readily absorbed.

I am good enough to win online in honest games. I regularly beat $30-$60 cash games, and I assure you the players in those games are better than most of the ones I've seen online.

[Lottery Larry]

"Let the games continue to thrive at B&M cardrooms,"

Don't you think this will impact on B&M somewhat, and tournaments most definately?

[CitiMan]

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Wrong. This bill is going to pass and there's nothing that online players can do to stop it.


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If everyone was as confident as you this bill would pass Party Gaming, SportingBet.com, 888.com along with all the other gambling websites would have already had their stock price fall through the floor, which as of today hasn't happened.

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Why would they fall to the floor?

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Probably because they would lose over half of their revenue. Americans aren't a small portion of their customers.

[MyTurn2Raise]

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I will not be at all sad to see online gambling get banned. Let the games continue to thrive at B&M cardrooms

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As someone who lives about seven hours from the nearest B&M cardroom, I would be quite sad about this.

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not quite so far, but this would really, really suck for me as well

Plus, I trust my rake money more to foreign companies than the state of Illinois licensed casinos.

[MyTurn2Raise]

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I am good enough to win online in honest games. I regularly beat $30-$60 cash games, and I assure you the players in those games are better than most of the ones I've seen online.

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Well...you must play below 3/6 because the 3/6 and 5/10 online games I play in are tougher than the 30/60 live games I play.

[BGnight]

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Wrong. This bill is going to pass and there's nothing that online players can do to stop it.


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The sky is falling!!!! The sky is falling!!!!
Dude, read swarthybear's link. This bill is [censored]. It's not gonna stop anything.

[MyTurn2Raise]

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ESPN and FSN can really help. I haven't seen a story yet, so I'm guessing they aren't aware of the proposed bill.
The more people who email their writers and feedback people, the more likely we'll see a story on T.V. and that could be disaster for the bill if the story goes mainstream national on a consistent basis.

http://www.cardplayer.com/pokerlaw/

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cNBC has been talking about it all day

[Aytumious]

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ESPN and FSN can really help. I haven't seen a story yet, so I'm guessing they aren't aware of the proposed bill.
The more people who email their writers and feedback people, the more likely we'll see a story on T.V. and that could be disaster for the bill if the story goes mainstream national on a consistent basis.

http://www.cardplayer.com/pokerlaw/

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cNBC has been talking about it all day

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What have they been saying?

[MyTurn2Raise]

Ferguson was on Squak Box--morning show

clips throughout the day of Raymer, Lederer, and Ferguson

Lederer was on On the Money--7PM EST news show

Ferguson and Lederer did a good job at trying to separate poker as a game of skill from other online gaming. Both called for regulation and taxation instead of prohibition. Also tried to show how the companies in online gaming are, for the most part, reputable companies regulated and traded by foreign stock exchanges. Also, they both emphasized how hard sites target and try to help underage and addicted gamblers, because the gaming sites know that these types of stories will bring their industry down.

CNBC tended to lump the poker story into that of all of online gambling. The Capitol Hill pundit they had said the bill is passing.

[BGnight]

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Ferguson was on Squak Box--morning show

clips throughout the day of Raymer, Lederer, and Ferguson

Lederer was on On the Money--7PM EST news show

Ferguson and Lederer did a good job at trying to separate poker as a game of skill from other online gaming. Both called for regulation and taxation instead of prohibition. Also tried to show how the companies in online gaming are, for the most part, reputable companies regulated and traded by foreign stock exchanges. Also, they both emphasized how hard sites target and try to help underage and addicted gamblers, because the gaming sites know that these types of stories will bring their industry down.

CNBC tended to lump the poker story into that of all of online gambling. The Capitol Hill pundit they had said the bill is passing.

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This is sweet. I can't think of 3 better spokesmen.

[BGnight]

Don't know why they didn't send Matasow