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SNOWBALL
04-02-2006, 03:23 AM
The full ring games there are so bad that I haven't played there in a long time. On the other hand, the bonuses are really generous and not too tough to clear. Is it worth it to play at AP? It seems like the games are awful during any bonus offer period. Are the shorthanded games a lot better?

Barrin6
04-02-2006, 03:29 AM
Play 2/4 short hand. The players there are horrible! They have a VP$P of over 80!

(Don't take me seriously, I just want more 2/4 players on there. As of right now there's only 4 2/4 games going on where as there is 10 1/2)

scorer
04-02-2006, 03:46 AM
want some good advice...stay away from absolute nightmare

Sniper
04-02-2006, 10:15 AM
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It seems like the games are awful during any bonus offer period.

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There is always an Absolute bonus period!... no one should play there without a bonus. However, bonus+rb is worth alot of dollars in total. You should compare your win rate there to other sites, and see if the B+RB makes up the difference or not for you.

NateDog
04-02-2006, 10:36 AM
Not worth it IMO

BigPoppa
04-02-2006, 02:43 PM
I used to play 6max limit there, and the games are beatable. But still a bit tougher than normal.

Phytopath
04-02-2006, 03:30 PM
The games are tough, but at 1/2 and 2/4 short bonii and RB work out to be around 3BB/100. The full ring games are terrible and haven't played them in a long, long time.

Also the rake is brutal about 2 times higher than stars/Paradise at 2/4 while it is about the same at 1/2.

The_Bankroll
04-02-2006, 04:04 PM
so, overall, if you're getting bonuses not a terrible place to play 1/2, wouldn't you say?

Layzie
04-02-2006, 08:14 PM
I would play this site if I could find a mod for it. It honestly hurts my eyes so bad that it keeps me from what is an obvious +EV opportunity (RB +bonus).

CappyAA
04-02-2006, 08:27 PM
I agree with Layzie. I actually did pretty well there playing the NL tables, but the layout is just awful. I can't even look at the site, and there are other things that bother me so much on the site (typing in bets, the sounds, etc.) However the RB and bonuses flowing in make for a lot of extra money.

Barrin6
04-02-2006, 08:31 PM
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so, overall, if you're getting bonuses not a terrible place to play 1/2, wouldn't you say?

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Best place to play for 1/2. 2/4 not really.

Layzie
04-02-2006, 08:44 PM
I may have to reconsider and try playing Absolute dispite wanting to gouge my eyes out. If anyone figures out a way to modify it substantially, please post it.

ImsaKidd
04-02-2006, 09:20 PM
Stay away. Every table is a 22/15 TAGfest. No fish whatsoever. The bonus is like .0000001BB/100 anyway with the new clearing requirements.

<font color="white"> Some or all of the above post may be facetious </font>

orange
04-02-2006, 09:29 PM
I played Nl there for about 2 months, clearing a $300 bonus. I played 50nl there and found that the game was definitely beatable. the players there are obviously much different than say, party players. Absolute players are fairly loose/passive.

The software sucks, but with the bonus/rakebacks, I think that the site is so so.

chicagoY
04-02-2006, 10:23 PM
I had to quit at Titan because I couldn't find any full tables there either.

wonderwes
04-03-2006, 01:28 AM
I think software makes a site. I just do not enjoy using their interface. MTT's could also use some variety.

MicroBob
04-03-2006, 01:32 AM
what are the new clearing requirements there?

NWCougar
04-03-2006, 02:08 AM
It takes 5 minutes to create your own background. The directions are on the homepage. Black out the interface, problem solved. It only has to be ugly if you're lazy.

g3rkshz
04-03-2006, 09:34 AM
AP is like my main site (RB + bonuses almost every week). i just had someone edit the classic table skin to remove all those small tables between seats and now it looks fine (for me)!

car ramrod
04-03-2006, 10:44 AM
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what are the new clearing requirements there?


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I don't know the exact details, but it made it a lot harder to clear a bonus at 1/2 and maybe 2/4. But at 3/6 and above you shouldn't really see much difference.

pkr2k5
04-03-2006, 11:54 AM
rake has to reach 50 cents as opposed to the old 25 cent rake (for it to count as a raked hand towards the bonus)

TheScientist
04-03-2006, 12:23 PM
I play 1/2 SH at Absolute and love it. I've tried to take shots at 2/4 and am running at -6BB/100 over several thousand. Which hurts. Bad.

otter
04-03-2006, 01:18 PM
I signed up months ago, but haven't played at all. The 3-6 and 5-10, 6 max limiit games were awful.

ImsaKidd
04-03-2006, 01:21 PM
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what are the new clearing requirements there?


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I don't know the exact details, but it made it a lot harder to clear a bonus at 1/2 and maybe 2/4. But at 3/6 and above you shouldn't really see much difference.

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I'm not sure how fast the bonus used to clear, but its about $4 per 100 hands now. I guess it used to be around $7/100 at 1/2?

I was referencing the change from .25 to .50 rake, there havent been any changes recently.

jasonHoldEm
04-03-2006, 01:39 PM
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I would play this site if I could find a mod for it. It honestly hurts my eyes so bad that it keeps me from what is an obvious +EV opportunity (RB +bonus).

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They have skins you can download now from the site, most are just as bad (if not worse) than the default, but you might be able to find one you like. FWIW, though I don't think the site is worth very much if you play higher than 1/2 or 2/4.

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MyTurn2Raise
04-03-2006, 04:03 PM
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Stay away. Every table is a 22/15 TAGfest. No fish whatsoever. The bonus is like .0000001BB/100 anyway with the new clearing requirements.

<font color="white"> Some or all of the above post may be facetious </font>

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this is correct

Layzie
04-04-2006, 09:01 AM
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It takes 5 minutes to create your own background. The directions are on the homepage. Black out the interface, problem solved. It only has to be ugly if you're lazy.

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I'm well aware of the backgrounds. I said "mod", though. There is alot more than the background that needs to be changed to make that site playable. Good job coming off as a giant douchebag, though.

Layzie
04-04-2006, 09:02 AM
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I would play this site if I could find a mod for it. It honestly hurts my eyes so bad that it keeps me from what is an obvious +EV opportunity (RB +bonus).

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They have skins you can download now from the site, most are just as bad (if not worse) than the default, but you might be able to find one you like. FWIW, though I don't think the site is worth very much if you play higher than 1/2 or 2/4.

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Yeah, they don't help very much. I play 1/2, that's what I was considering it.

SmackinYaUp
04-04-2006, 09:55 AM
how are the 6max 100nl and 200nl games there?

Stosh
04-04-2006, 01:37 PM
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how are the 6max 100nl and 200nl games there?

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Yes. 'Stosh

wslee00
04-04-2006, 02:00 PM
Huh?

HRFats
04-04-2006, 04:30 PM
If you play tight ABC poker you should do OK at the 1/2 limit tables. There's usually one 20something VP$IP with a PFR of about 10 but you will also usually find one or two 50+ VP$IP aggressive players. I usually just check the BB and fold everything else until I get a really strong hand and let the maniacs hang themselves. It's quite fun...

livinitup0
04-04-2006, 05:06 PM
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Best place to play for 1/2.

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c'mon now.....this isnt even close to true.

A good player can beat the party games for more than this. Plus with VIP and reloads???

Nope..... AP sucks...it sucked a year ago...it sucked 6 months ago....it sucks now....and when they finally decide to stop doing unlimited reloads or start deducting bonii from MGR they will go away....finally.

I hate you Fred Roman, you owe me money......again.

livinitup0
04-04-2006, 07:31 PM
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I may have to reconsider and try playing Absolute dispite wanting to gouge my eyes out. If anyone figures out a way to modify it substantially, please post it.

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Use the search function...also you could use google, or yahoo, or excite, or ask...hmm see a trend?

There has been numerous AP table mod threads, you can even modify it from the software now I believe.....although their interface should be the least of their concerns.

NWCougar
04-04-2006, 07:47 PM
Don't tell Layzie about being able to mod it yourself. He will call you a giant Douchebag. Support has told me that they are working on card mods as well. But I won't tell Layzie that. He may get mad and tell his Mommy

Layzie
04-04-2006, 08:25 PM
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Don't tell Layzie about being able to mod it yourself. He will call you a giant Douchebag. Support has told me that they are working on card mods as well. But I won't tell Layzie that. He may get mad and tell his Mommy

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I didn't call you a douchebag, if that's what you're trying to imply. I simply said you came off as one.

SmackinYaUp
04-05-2006, 12:01 AM
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Don't tell Layzie about being able to mod it yourself. He will call you a giant Douchebag. Support has told me that they are working on card mods as well. But I won't tell Layzie that. He may get mad and tell his Mommy

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I didn't call you a douchebag, if that's what you're trying to imply. I simply said you came off as one.

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Haha I read that post while I was doing some AP research. Layzie came off as the douchebag in the end.

By the way, is your name from Layzie Bone? They used to be my favorite back in the East 99 days...

Edit - nevermind I just saw your location.

coleco
04-05-2006, 02:37 PM
yea this bonus SUCKS to clear !!! you have to play like 10000 hands at .5/1 and 1/2 to clear it and the tables blow ..

i am just going to play 2/4 with my 100 i got left on this site and lose it or get hot and cashout /images/graemlins/smile.gif