Intercasino - APRIL Official BUSTO Thread

[imitation]

Lets get the ball rolling boys it's April 1 already. Owned at JoB for me.

[KSOT]

Why Why Why JoB?

[imitation]

Huh low house advantage, big excitement when you hit royal flush playing $25 a hand, I don't see why you'd ask it is almost better than pontoon because you bust out so much more quickly which makes the house advantage effectively smaller.

[playersare]

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Huh low house advantage, big excitement when you hit royal flush playing $25 a hand, I don't see why you'd ask it is almost better than pontoon because you bust out so much more quickly which makes the house advantage effectively smaller.

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this is april fools right? crypto JoB pays only 40 for a straight flush and 20 for quads. that makes the payback percentage only 98.25%. house advantage 1.75%.

[Packard]

Why not play blackjack there every month. With that 2500 WR for 100 you can bet $5 a hand and clear it out in about an hour on the fastest settings. JOB VP flux are too wild for me for that low WR.

[rsigley]

best run yet on blackjack

$5/hand

cashed out $605 from initial 100 deposit, +81 bets

then i followed that up with a quick bust in eurobet (25x now??), William Hill, and Littlewoods

[KingMedicine]

cashed out an even 5 hundy (deposited 150, 100 bonus, 250 winnings) playing .10 ten play double bonus video poker.

+350 overall.

[WLVRYN]

I AM BUSTO (at Intercasino anyeay). Unreal run of dealer blackjacks and 21s against my monster 13s and 14s.

[MadMat]

I had some stacked bonus at Intercasino,

$300 bonus, $100 of my own money, flat bet $3 at blackjack all the way
Cashed out $220 from the starting $400 /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Mat

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I still dont know why you guys bother playing those crap games.

Pontoon has an insanely low house edge.
http://wizardofodds.com/pontoon
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The house edge is 0.17% if a 2-card 21 after splitting aces is a pontoon.

The house edge is 0.62% if a 2-card 21 after splitting aces is not a pontoon.

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[136913691369]

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still dont know why you guys bother playing those crap games.

Pontoon has an insanely low house edge.
http://wizardofodds.com/pontoon

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The house edge is 0.17% if a 2-card 21 after splitting aces is a pontoon.

The house edge is 0.62% if a 2-card 21 after splitting aces is not a pontoon

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Well the minimum bet at intercasino's pontoon is $5 and with crazy amount of variance that pontoon has some people (like me) just can't stand it. I love me my double bonus video poker!

[sharp63]

I was betting $5 a hand playing blackjack. I got up to around $600 and decided I was either going to run it up to $800 or stop when I was down to $500, so I made a $50 bet, got dealt an 11 vs. a 6, so I double down and got a 4...dealer ended up making an 18 and I cashed out $500 so $300 profit in addition to the $100 bonus.

I've been on a hell of a roll at Intercasino. Since they've switched to the $100 bonus, I've cashed out at $320, $300, and now $500.

[fullhouse]

had a nice run this month...

BJ $10-$20/hand

+ $600

[bottomset]

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I still dont know why you guys bother playing those crap games.

Pontoon has an insanely low house edge.
http://wizardofodds.com/pontoon
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The house edge is 0.17% if a 2-card 21 after splitting aces is a pontoon.

The house edge is 0.62% if a 2-card 21 after splitting aces is not a pontoon.

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I really wish I didn't read this, as this is going to waste a lot of my time

I went busto at intercasino was up 210 at one point but going 0-3 on 50-60bets that I dd or split hurt

[B00T]

I got bit by the ECash bug. Free $99 here. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Escape]

+350$. 20$ a hand/bj. First time this year I won something playing intercasino, [censored].

[POKhER]

ive got two bonuses stacked, must i clear it all before cashing out?

Dam i'm baffled as to how ill cash out and what ammount it will let me cashout...

Cheers in advanced for this wierd question.

[PokerintheI]

You can cash out each bonus as you clear it. So, Your balance is $300, withdrawl cap $100. Play $2500, your withdrawl cap is $200, Play another $2500, your withdrawl cap is $300.

However, you might as well leave the money in there till you clear it all. It is "slightly" less obvious that your just playing for the bonus. They will bonus ban after a while if you get too obvious about it.

[kitaristi0]

Intercasino hates me. At least I got some of my money out of there.

[Photoc]

$100 deposit + $100 bonus....cash out $390 playing Pontoon. 0.16% house edge with their rules. Just FYI, variance can be a hoe on this game though.

[car ramrod]

ran my $100 bonus + $100 deposit up to $750. I always start off every month w/ a $100 bet, then go $25 bets from there. I got it up to around $700 then realized that I still have 3 months of uncleared wr's. I will try to finish it tonite in the positive.

[VinnyTheFish]

Busto at Intercasino and Will Hill. HAd a rotton run since my "brag" thread. <note to self: Maybe it is rigged!>

[bulldawgblue]

Can someone explain to me why everyone is betting so high (between $25-$100)? With that size bet, your bonus isn't compensating for the HA. Do you (people betting big) jsut not want to spend the time on it to make the ~$80? You might as well just deposit $200 and play with your own money.

[Escape]

Bulldawg. Could you please show me a formula that backs those words up? The EV on each bet is the same right, however you will clear it much faster so your hourly rate is higher. The downside is that you will go BUSTO a lot more, because the variance is higher.

Maybe I'm missing something though.

Escape :C

[Photoc]

Escape is 100% correct. The house edge remains the same therefore you could bet a million or a dollar and the HA isn't going to change. Variance is a helluva lot higher the more you bet and thats the only thing that changes.

[MadMat]

Did Intercasino.co.uk last night, ran better there, £50 ($89) deposit, £50 Bonus, Cashed out £149 ($256) flat bet £2 BJ all the way!

Mat

[car ramrod]

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Can someone explain to me why everyone is betting so high (between $25-$100)? With that size bet, your bonus isn't compensating for the HA. Do you (people betting big) jsut not want to spend the time on it to make the ~$80? You might as well just deposit $200 and play with your own money.

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the other guys answered this already about the HA. but another reason why I do bet w/ bigger bets is b/c it's quicker and I don't have the time to grind it out. If I lose the $100 it's not a big deal. The times I run goot, I usually end up winning ~$400.

fwiw, when I first started building my bankroll, I would grind it out w/ $2 bets.

[bulldawgblue]

Sorry, you are both correct. The HA does not change regardless of bet size. However, the reason these bonues become +EV is because the bonus money offers some padding against the HA. So you can "lose but still turn a profit". By betting $50 a hand, the bonus really isn't doing anything for you, hence....my question above.

[Davey]

Finished InterCasino +$110. $5 bets playing Pontoon.

[car ramrod]

fwiw, I got drunk and ran my total up to $1250 and cashed out. best.month.ever

[Precision1C]

Betting bigger doesn't affect your EV in any way. Your variance goes through the roof and the odds of busting out become very large but in the long run that is made up for by large wins. The one disadvantage of big bets versus small bets is that sometimes you end up being unable to split and or double down because your betting pool has gotten too small which increases the house advantage.

[poker_n00b]

i guess i am diehard bonus hunter. flatbet $1 dollar. +110

[db9db9db9]

Isn't the minimum bet at Intercasino $2?

[Davey]

I think it depends on the game. Pontoon min. bet is $5. I thought BJ was $1 but I havent played in a while. I used to play multi-hand BJ to so Im not sure if that changes it.

[bigalt]

ouch, -170 including the bonus. not as bad as my -230 at will hill though. accidentally bet 100 when aiming for the rebet button at the end, got 14 and hit for an 8 /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Parthos]

If you play multi-hand blackjack, the minimum bet size is $1. You can just play one hand.

[imitation]

ugh you guys are all wrong, busting out quicker clears your winrate quicker which means your EV is higher, so bigger bets, bigger variance, more busting == greater EV, I won't do the maths but it's pretty obvious when you think about it.

[poker_n00b]

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Isn't the minimum bet at Intercasino $2?

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not at mutli hand where u can play 1 hand

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[poker_n00b]

the things that annoys me is the rebet button that is so strategically placed just 1 mm above the 25 dollar bet button. i usualy hit the buttons like hell, so a misclick will cost me 25, coz im sure the software is rigged and will make me lose that bet.

[imitation]

you guys are also really stupid for doing this the low variance way because it causes casinos to discontinue bonuses which is as -EV as it comes, ps yes I did this when I was first starting and naive but it's wrong and you ruin it for everyone.

[bulldawgblue]

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you guys are also really stupid for doing this the low variance way because it causes casinos to discontinue bonuses which is as -EV as it comes, ps yes I did this when I was first starting and naive but it's wrong and you ruin it for everyone.

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Ok, I'm talking about mathematical EV, not "for the love of the game" EV. My bankroll is small, when I deposit I'm betting in way which gives me the best chance at walking away with their money. By betting $50 a hand it would not be unreasonable to bust out for any given amount of months consecutively, even years. But hey, I want to thank people like you for busting out and keeping the promotions going for people like me....or something.

[grabdemankles]

APRIL 6 2006
BUSTO AT PONTOON /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[TaggedYa]

I think that the question brought up by bulldawgblue needs addressed a little better than imitation’s post does it. However imitation is correct as far as he took it.

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bulldawgblue
Can someone explain to me why everyone is betting so high (between $25-$100)? With that size bet, your bonus isn't compensating for the HA. Do you (people betting big) jsut not want to spend the time on it to make the ~$80? You might as well just deposit $200 and play with your own money.

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bulldawgblue
Sorry, you are both correct. The HA does not change regardless of bet size. However, the reason these bonues become +EV is because the bonus money offers some padding against the HA. So you can "lose but still turn a profit". By betting $50 a hand, the bonus really isn't doing anything for you, hence....my question above.

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You are correct that the House Advantage (HA) does not change on any given bet regardless of size. The secret is more subtle than just HA v bet size. It is also not a matter of the time taken although that is a consideration is selecting your best strategy.

Suppose you had 100 bonuses that were all 100/100/2000 (deposit/bonus/wager requirement) and could be played off only on a game with a house advantage of 5%. The first impression is that this is a useless bonus. If you played it with $1 bets you would be down an average of $100 at the end of each bonus and would have nothing for your trouble. However what happens if you start each bonus with a $200 bet. Half the bonuses you would loose all the money on the first bet and would be done. On the other half you would win $190 and have $390 with $200 of the Wager Requirement (WR) completed. Now you flat bet $1 until the WR is finished. $1800 WR x .05 HA = $90 loss on the excess WR. That leaves you with $300 to cash out. So on the 2 bonuses you lost your $100 deposit on one and you won $200 on the other for a net of $100 on the pair. With many bonuses to play your results will come close to this ideal and a useless bonus is 50% cashable.

The reason it works is that there is 0 HA on bets you don’t make. Notice that when you go bust right out of the gate you don’t play off the WR. So you played 2200 in WR for $200 in bonus not 4000. To make things even better if you implement this kind of strategy correctly you look like a typical idiot gambler win or loose.

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imitation
you guys are also really stupid for doing this the low variance way because it causes casinos to discontinue bonuses which is as -EV as it comes, ps yes I did this when I was first starting and naive but it's wrong and you ruin it for everyone.

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It is never stupid to play within your bankroll. If your bankroll can’t take variance then by all means use a low variance strategy. However you should be taking all the variance that you can afford because your return is directly proportional to the variance that you accept.

[rsigley]

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the things that annoys me is the rebet button that is so strategically placed just 1 mm above the 25 dollar bet button. i usualy hit the buttons like hell, so a misclick will cost me 25, coz im sure the software is rigged and will make me lose that bet.

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i use the intercasino no download java version (for some reason I can never log in with the downloaded version always gives me an error on login they never have been able to fix) and you can use the number pad to make your actions so you don't have to click, helps prevent those misclicks

[TomBrooks]

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the things that annoys me is the rebet button that is so strategically placed just 1 mm above the 25 dollar bet button. i usualy hit the buttons like hell, so a misclick will cost me 25, coz im sure the software is rigged and will make me lose that bet.

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I've hit the $25 bet button 2, and maybe 3 times by mistake. Luckily I won on those hands.

[Ken_AA]

wow that was close, almost had my first losing bonus in my 5 month career. Will hill, down to 15 bucks of the 80 I started with, and 600 into it, I storm back over the final 200 bucks of the WR to make a 9 dollar profit.

Also ended up plus 20 pounds at Littlewoods for a plus 70 pound month.....

screw low stakes poker.

Ken

[HajiShirazu]

Busto, $10 a hand pontoon.

[Jehaim]

I deposited $100, get $100 bonus.

I bet $2 hand/blackjack and I'm down to $104 after only 54% of my WR done.

I go to cashier, it says I can withdraw $100.

There are casino's out there who wouldn't allow you to cashout your original deposit right?

(after doing only 54% of WR)

[NL Newbie]

jehaim, nxt month you'll have to wager the 46% remaining + 100% for the new bonus.

Fun.

[Jehaim]

But if I decide to stop whoring Interpoker I can withdraw my original deposit of $100.

There are a lot of casino's who won't let you do that.

Is there a word for this kind of 'free' bonus in the bonuswhore-world?

[Davey]

Is there a word for this kind of 'free' bonus in the bonuswhore-world?

Risk-Free. Only a couple bonuses are like this.

[IggyWH]

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But if I decide to stop whoring Interpoker I can withdraw my original deposit of $100.

There are a lot of casino's who won't let you do that.

Is there a word for this kind of 'free' bonus in the bonuswhore-world?

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Risk-free, and it is one of the stupidest things possible to do when casino whoring.

Now for my brag :

Blew through $100 quickly playing $50 hands of Double Bonus VP ($1 coins/10 hands). Let the remaining $100 sit there for a week, went back, played a $100 hand of Double Bonus ($2 coins/10 hands). Got dealt a pair of 3's and hit 4 of a kind for $800.

[TaggedYa]

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jehaim, nxt month you'll have to wager the 46% remaining + 100% for the new bonus.

Fun.

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This is incorrect. If you stop here, then deposit $100 next month, when you finish the 46% on this bonus you will be able to cash out $300. Unless you are up from the 46% play you will not need to clear the last bonus posted. My advice is to continue to play on your current deposit till you make back some of what you are down or you have almost cleared the bonus. Then next month deposit, play off the current bonus and some of the next then cash out. You will always have a "banked" bonus to clear untill you happen to run good and need to clear it to cash your winnings.

TaggedYa

[NL Newbie]

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jehaim, nxt month you'll have to wager the 46% remaining + 100% for the new bonus.

Fun.

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This is incorrect. If you stop here, then deposit $100 next month, when you finish the 46% on this bonus you will be able to cash out $300. Unless you are up from the 46% play you will not need to clear the last bonus posted. My advice is to continue to play on your current deposit till you make back some of what you are down or you have almost cleared the bonus. Then next month deposit, play off the current bonus and some of the next then cash out. You will always have a "banked" bonus to clear untill you happen to run good and need to clear it to cash your winnings.

TaggedYa

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Dude what are you on about?

FACT: HE WILL HAVE TO CLEAR THE REMAINDER OF THIS BONUS BEFORE HE CAN CLEAR THE NEXT BONUS.

Are you debating this? if not, why the hell did you quote me?

[TaggedYa]

What I took exception to is the need to clear the next bonus. There is no need to so "next month" he has to clear 46% not 146%. Yes if he wants to clear the next bonus he will have to finish this bonus first. However, he has no reason to NEED to clear the next bonus unless (as I stated) he makes back what he is down. If you don't understand what I am talking about then PM me and I will explain it fully but that is not something to put on a googleable board.

TaggedYa

[Jehaim]

Thanks for the answers all.

Still learning this whoring stuff. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Watai]

Quick question, can you do both interpoker monthly bonus and intercasino monthly? Sounds too good so i think that answer is no...

[MadMat]

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Quick question, can you do both interpoker monthly bonus and intercasino monthly? Sounds too good so i think that answer is no...

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No, it's one bonus, you can clear in the casino or the pokerroom or a combination of the two.

if you are in the UK however you can do Interpoker/casino.com and intercasino.co.uk each month

Mat

[Homer]

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Risk-free, and it is one of the stupidest things possible to do when casino whoring.

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It's not stupid. I've been doing IC risk-free for years. The only thing you need to avoid doing is depositing and immediately cashing out so that you're only playing with the bonus. For that, they have been banning people.

[Necromancer]

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But if I decide to stop whoring Interpoker I can withdraw my original deposit of $100.

There are a lot of casino's who won't let you do that.

Is there a word for this kind of 'free' bonus in the bonuswhore-world?

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Correct.

I think it is known as 'no risk' but i have known to be wrong

[Photoc]

UPDATE: bonus I did in this thread was march. I just did April, ran it as high as 590, cashed out at 340 (+240) after hitting a sick 28 out of 31 losing hands. But nonetheless, I profited for the 7th out of 8 tries here.