Clearable Micro-limit Bonuses?

[MaddHatter]

Playing $20NL or $40NL, are there any first-deposit bonuses that are clearable playing these limits? Is it worth it to worry about a sign-up bonus or should you just go for the best rakeback program?

[Pepsquad]

$20 and $40 NL is not micro-limit. It's small stakes. And whoring deposit bonuses at these limits could double your BB/100 at these stakes. Yeah, it's worth it.

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Playing $20NL or $40NL, are there any first-deposit bonuses that are clearable playing these limits? Is it worth it to worry about a sign-up bonus or should you just go for the best rakeback program?

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[Dunkman]

If you're willing to play $50NL Betfred has a 10x 100% up to $250 bonus, where any raked hands ($1 pot for NL) counts towards the bonus...seems to be a great deal. Also, their support seems rock solid the couple weeks I've been there.]

Also, Paradise has a 10x 50% up to $100 bonus (search the web, need to use an affiliate for this one.) Pots have to be at least .25 to count as a raked hand here...can play any limit just need a $5 pot. There's many more, these are just a couple I have done recently.

[MaddHatter]

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$20 and $40 NL is not micro-limit. It's small stakes. And whoring deposit bonuses at these limits could double your BB/100 at these stakes. Yeah, it's worth it.

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Playing $20NL or $40NL, are there any first-deposit bonuses that are clearable playing these limits? Is it worth it to worry about a sign-up bonus or should you just go for the best rakeback program?

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Maybe I have the wrong interpretation of $20NL and $40NL, but isn't that .01/.02NL and .02/.04NL - that's as micro as you can get. If it's supposed to be $2NL and $4NL - I apologize for my incorrect usage of the terms - please give advice in regards to microlimits though - Thanks!

[Pepsquad]

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$20 and $40 NL is not micro-limit. It's small stakes. And whoring deposit bonuses at these limits could double your BB/100 at these stakes. Yeah, it's worth it.

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Playing $20NL or $40NL, are there any first-deposit bonuses that are clearable playing these limits? Is it worth it to worry about a sign-up bonus or should you just go for the best rakeback program?

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Maybe I have the wrong interpretation of $20NL and $40NL, but isn't that .01/.02NL and .02/.04NL - that's as micro as you can get. If it's supposed to be $2NL and $4NL - I apologize for my incorrect usage of the terms - please give advice in regards to microlimits though - Thanks!

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Ahhh. Blinds are .02/.04 - yeah that's about as micro-limit as you can get, sorry for the confusion. At that limit, I don't think it matters much what you do. You won't be clearing any bonus and the rake you accumulate will be literally pennies per week - maybe a couple of bucks if you play a boatload.

At this point, might I suggest you take advantage of PokerSourceOnline's free $100 bankroll for Party?

[Green Devil]

Yes dude, at that limit you are just wasting your time. Get a job and save a few hundred bucks, then you have a chance.

[MaddHatter]

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Yes dude, at that limit you are just wasting your time. Get a job and save a few hundred bucks, then you have a chance.

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LOL - so playing .01/.02 is a reflection on my skills or my job situation how?

Ignorance must be bliss Green

[jct]

I cleared the casino.net $100 bonus mostly at the .05/.10 nl tables

[tehox]

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Playing $20NL or $40NL, are there any first-deposit bonuses that are clearable playing these limits? Is it worth it to worry about a sign-up bonus or should you just go for the best rakeback program?

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Bonuses beat rakeback by a lot at low limits. But most bonus. From what I can tell, most bonus require you to play at a minimum $25NL or .5/1 LHE.

Check out PokerSourceOnline.com, they have an "instant bankroll" type option where they give $50 free for signing up a TitanPoker account or PartyPoker account, if you have never had an account before. Sounds like a good way to build up a bankroll.

[tehox]

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Yes dude, at that limit you are just wasting your time. Get a job and save a few hundred bucks, then you have a chance.

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LOL - so playing .01/.02 is a reflection on my skills or my job situation how?

Ignorance must be bliss Green

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Don't take what he said personally man, b/c he is right. You are not going to make money at these limits. It is POSSIBLE to grind up from these limits, but you're winrate is going to be miniscule and it's going to take a long time. And you cannot clear most bonuses playing the nano-limits. So if you're still learning, I would play nanolimits on Stars, b/c they don't rake the really low limit games, but try to build a bankroll from outside sources. Also check out PokerSourceOnline.com as I mention in my other post, you can get $50 risk free on Titan Poker. Might be a good idea to give that a shot and play some $5 or $10NL, if you lose it doesn't matter if you win that sounds like it would be a good boost to your bankroll!

[Green Devil]

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Yes dude, at that limit you are just wasting your time. Get a job and save a few hundred bucks, then you have a chance.

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LOL - so playing .01/.02 is a reflection on my skills or my job situation how?

Ignorance must be bliss Green

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I'm sorry if I offended you, but you have been asking for information about rakeback and bonuses for 2 days now while proudly stating that you wish to play .01/.02 NL.

I think that you are a little confused here. Do you intend to start a poker career by playing at those limits? Do you think you can build a bankroll from there?

As I see it, either you are sleeping under a bridge and then, yes, I believe you should get a job and save enough money to start with a non-laughable bankroll or you are waisting everybody's time in here.

Either way, best of luck (you'll more than need it)

[MaddHatter]

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Yes dude, at that limit you are just wasting your time. Get a job and save a few hundred bucks, then you have a chance.

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LOL - so playing .01/.02 is a reflection on my skills or my job situation how?

Ignorance must be bliss Green

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I'm sorry if I offended you, but you have been asking for information about rakeback and bonuses for 2 days now while proudly stating that you wish to play .01/.02 NL.

I think that you are a little confused here. Do you intend to start a poker career by playing at those limits? Do you think you can build a bankroll from there?

As I see it, either you are sleeping under a bridge and then, yes, I believe you should get a job and save enough money to start with a non-laughable bankroll or you are waisting everybody's time in here.

Either way, best of luck (you'll more than need it)

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I work 60-70 hours a week vs playing 1-5hours a week and maybe a couple on the weekends so my bankroll and limits reflect the time I'm able to dedicate to a game. I'd rather deposit my "measely" $100 and build it and grow as I move up in limits then deposit $xxxxxxxx and play the big dog limits that neither my experience or time commitment warrent.

I apologize if my inquiries "Bug" you, but I feel like this site is a great resource and there are probably several people who have done tons of research on these things and rather then spending hours myself researching, I'll simply ask. I'd hate to start playing online somewhere and then find out that if I had signed up through some rakeback site, I would be getting some extra funds.

Again, my apologies for "wasting your time" but I want rakeback for when I'm at .01/.02 as well as when i'm at 10/20 - just makes sense to stay at one site with my main account and bonus whore others.

[Beavis68]

last time I looked 20$NL was 10c/20c.

That would be a [censored] huge 1c/2c game.

[Ken_AA]

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Ignorance must be bliss Green

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I apologize if my inquiries "Bug" you, but I feel like this site is a great resource and there are probably several people who have done tons of research on these things and rather then spending hours myself researching, I'll simply ask.

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1) No one likes a dick.

2) Why should anyone share anything with you when you admit your to lazy to look it up yourself.... here is a link to start with:

www.google.com (http://www.google.com)

Ken

[Dunkman]

Read this
Wookie's Building a Bankroll Guide (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=micro&Number=3740788&fpar t=1&PHPSESSID=)

[MaddHatter]

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Read this
Wookie's Building a Bankroll Guide (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=micro&Number=3740788&fpar t=1&PHPSESSID=)

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Read it - thanks!

[MaddHatter]

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Ignorance must be bliss Green

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I apologize if my inquiries "Bug" you, but I feel like this site is a great resource and there are probably several people who have done tons of research on these things and rather then spending hours myself researching, I'll simply ask.

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1) No one likes a dick.

2) Why should anyone share anything with you when you admit your to lazy to look it up yourself.... here is a link to start with:

www.google.com (http://www.google.com)

Ken

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I appreciate your sarcasm, but if you and green have nothing to contribute, then I'd appreciate you not responding. When I said that I'd rather ask then do the research myself, I meant the multitude of hours required. I have already gone to all the rakeback sites and reviewed them, I've read all the 2+2 bonus threads on bonus whoring and bankroll building. That in itself took a few hours.

Again - I apologize if I came off as a dick, but I don't get hte point of responding to someones thread if you have nothing to contribute.

[Ted Metro]

If you have $100 and your limits/bankroll are not a reflection of your skill, but rather a reflection of the time you can play at the tables, I recommend Bodog.

You can find a 100% bonus up to $100, and you can take as long as you want to clear it because it doesn't expire. That should suit you well if you can only play 5-10 hours per week. Also, I cleared the bonus playing $25NL ($.10/$.25 blinds), and I don't think you should play less than $10 NL ($.05/$.10 blinds), if you're comfortable with your game.

Good place for you in my opinion.

[Green Devil]

Again, I was not trying to offend you. I understand you want to sign up with an affiliate to get RB if and when you ever start playing grown up limits. That makes sense but it also sounds a little exagerated that you are making all this research and asking all this questions when you are talking about pennies.

What will probably happen is that the affiliate, when he realizes that you are costing him money by playing the limits you intend to will just terminate your RB deal.

It will take you ages to clear any kind of bonus.
It will be very difficult to improve your game at those levels as it is practically the same as playing play money, where people don't take the game seriously and your good hands never hold because you are always against half the table (at least)

To resume, my contribution to your quest will be to invest a larger sum into your bankroll if you feel comfortable with it but even if you can't/won't, to start playing at a higher level (.25/.50 is a good place and move quickly up to .50/1.00 if you feel you can beat the game)

It is better to try this 3/4 times until you succeed then stagnate at the micro levels.

I hope this helps,

GD

[MaddHatter]

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If you have $100 and your limits/bankroll are not a reflection of your skill, but rather a reflection of the time you can play at the tables, I recommend Bodog.

You can find a 100% bonus up to $100, and you can take as long as you want to clear it because it doesn't expire. That should suit you well if you can only play 5-10 hours per week. Also, I cleared the bonus playing $25NL ($.10/$.25 blinds), and I don't think you should play less than $10 NL ($.05/$.10 blinds), if you're comfortable with your game.

Good place for you in my opinion.

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Excellent idea - Thanks for the post!

[MaddHatter]

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Again, I was not trying to offend you. I understand you want to sign up with an affiliate to get RB if and when you ever start playing grown up limits. That makes sense but it also sounds a little exagerated that you are making all this research and asking all this questions when you are talking about pennies.

What will probably happen is that the affiliate, when he realizes that you are costing him money by playing the limits you intend to will just terminate your RB deal.

It will take you ages to clear any kind of bonus.
It will be very difficult to improve your game at those levels as it is practically the same as playing play money, where people don't take the game seriously and your good hands never hold because you are always against half the table (at least)

To resume, my contribution to your quest will be to invest a larger sum into your bankroll if you feel comfortable with it but even if you can't/won't, to start playing at a higher level (.25/.50 is a good place and move quickly up to .50/1.00 if you feel you can beat the game)

It is better to try this 3/4 times until you succeed then stagnate at the micro levels.

I hope this helps,

GD

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Green - I'll take this opportunity to step back and apologize - I took your comments as derogitory and offensive as if my limits were of no consequence.

My plans were to deposit $100 and go from there, but if there's no point to playing the micros (they won't improve my game) and I'd be better off going straight to the $.25/.50 then so be it. By my calculations, I'd need 20bb per buy-in which is $10 and 20 buy-ins for a BR which is $200 - so I should be fine there.

Sound right? Thanks for sticking with me and sorry for getting off on the wrong foot.

[Green Devil]

Same here. We're fine.
Good luck to you in whatever you decide to do.