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CrdShrk6
03-14-2006, 09:22 PM
I play against a call box in seven stud. It seems like whenever i start out with small two pair or a big pair, i get called down by this opponent and he outdraws me. How do i handle an opponent like this? Also, is it a good idea to bet large early, or save the large bets for later streets?

BeerMoney
03-14-2006, 09:26 PM
Berate him till he changes his ways.

highlife
03-14-2006, 09:28 PM
bet made hands and check draws.

Spladle
03-15-2006, 08:35 AM
fold pf

MRBAA
03-15-2006, 11:23 AM
Move up to higher stakes. The players there play correctly, and will fold when they don't have a strong hand.

Maksymilian
03-15-2006, 03:47 PM
the check raise is your friend

Pokeraddict
03-15-2006, 04:16 PM
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bet made hands and check draws.

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I think this is the only good advice out of all of it.

Check raising call stations dont work because the ydont bet much and they certainly will not fold to one. When you are drawing you are not going to bet him out anyway and heads up it is doubtful your draw will be +EV as you are betting big bets into a heads up pot.

Fierce Lion7
03-15-2006, 08:59 PM
I read this yesterday but I thought it was a riot and in light of my post about Mr. Haney, I thought I would thank you for the laugh.

iamastud
03-16-2006, 07:50 PM
Then how do you expect to make money if all the players are playing correctly? The calling station is your friend.

highlife
03-17-2006, 12:25 AM
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the check raise is your friend

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uhh no, the checkraise is only for betting stations.

spex x
03-17-2006, 03:05 AM
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Move up to higher stakes. The players there play correctly, and will fold when they don't have a strong hand.

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How high is high? I'm playing 6/12, and sometimes they boggle my mind with what they'll take to the river. Maybe I should start playing 10/20?

spex x
03-17-2006, 03:08 AM
I agree, there really isn't anything you can do. You should take comfort in the fact the he is the one taking the worst of it if he's sucking out all the time against you. In the long run you will have his money.

shmoosh
03-17-2006, 05:07 AM
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Move up to higher stakes. The players there play correctly, and will fold when they don't have a strong hand.

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How high is high? I'm playing 6/12, and sometimes they boggle my mind with what they'll take to the river. Maybe I should start playing 10/20?

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I'd go to at least 40-80, the players there will respect your raises and you can really make some money.

Andy B
03-17-2006, 10:42 AM
In my limited experience, $40/80 still isn't high enough, and from what Jeffage has said, $75/150 isn't high enough either. The notion that you can move up to some limit where the bad beats will magically disappear is absurd.

MRBAA
03-17-2006, 11:35 AM
Actually, that response was a joke. The point is, good players take many more bad beats than bad players. Do you see why?

Jeffage
03-17-2006, 02:06 PM
If there is a limit where bad beats and suckouts don't occur, I want no part of it. That's where the money comes from, even though it can be infuritating a times. Basically in games where people chase, make sure you make it mathematically incorrect to do so - many people forget this. Also, maximize your expectation by getting the pot shorthanded if your hand calls for it. These donks put their money in, if they beat you, let them enjoy it.

Jeff