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poker1O1

01-06-2006, 08:19 PM

Hand 1: Is this ok in moderation?
Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
4 folds, CO calls, 1 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3.00 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, CO folds.
Final Pot: 2.00 BB.

Hand 2: unknown villian
Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
4 folds, CO raises, 1 folds, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12.00 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.00 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.00 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 15.00 BB.

hand 3: villian is a 28/4/1.2
Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
4 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.00 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets, SB calls, Hero raises, MP3 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, SB folds, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 7.50 BB.

hand 4: villian plays standard pf, not much info postflop
Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
5 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.20 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: 4.20 BB.

hand 5: unknown villian
Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
4 folds, MP2 raises, 1 folds, CO calls, 1 folds, Hero calls, 1 folds.

Flop: (7.00 SB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks.
Final Pot: 7.50 BB.

hand 6: villian is 28/6/1.1
Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises, MP1 calls, 6 folds.

Flop: (5.40 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls.

River: (5.70 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 6.70 BB.

hand 7: no comments, just an ok hand
Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)
Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 folds, MP1 calls, 1 folds, MP3 raises, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP3 caps, CO calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (16.40 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10.20 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP3 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (22.20 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 28.20 BB.

Nick C

01-06-2006, 08:48 PM

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Hand 1: Is this ok in moderation?

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Yes.

Hand 2: I would have paid off the river 3-bet. You're probably beat, but people go nuts in blind-steal situations sometimes. I think it's still possible SB just has a queen (or KK).

Hand 3: Yeah, it looks like you're beat, with 0-3 outs. The turn fold looks good to me.

Hand 4: I probably would have just called the flop, but your line has its advantages and seems all right to me. Villain doesn't have to have an ace, so you may have more outs than you appear to. (You could even have the best hand, though I don't think you will very often.) So when your flop raise works, either because Villain gets scared you have an ace or because Villain whiffs on a turn checkraise, you get to see two cards for just two SBs, and that seems like a good deal. And when you get 3-bet on the flop, it shouldn't be too hard to let your hand go, if (unlike in the actual hand, where you caught a flush draw) you're unimproved on the turn.

You also may have some fold equity, but I don't see people bet-folding the flop much in spots like this. And with good reason -- betting into a PFR on the flop with the intention of folding to a raise seems like a low-percentage play.

Hand 5: I probably would have checkraised the flop and gone from there.

But your line seems all right to me, and it looks like you won.

It's hard to maximize your winning hands out of position, sometimes.

Hand 6: Frustrating. On the river, what can Villain have that you still beat? A lower pocket pair, I guess, and I think Villain will often take the free showdown with that (and also will often already have folded that pair on the turn).

I probably would have played it the same way you did. I guess sometimes I'd bet-fold the river instead, but it seems very unlikely that you're best. And if you're not best, a river bet would be a bluff, hoping to fold what? QJ? I'm not very optimistic.

Hand 7: The last time I got action resembling this with quads, I had to catch a one-outer on the river to make my quads and win. (I had set under set on the turn.)

Sleyde

01-06-2006, 09:15 PM

1) good

2)3-bet flop bet turn

3) bet flop. Opponent will take the freecard more often than you like.

4) just fold the flop. If you decide to raise, however, bet the turn. Lots of fold equity here.

5) reads? I'd fold preflop with a caller. 3-bet flop

6) check / call river. Opponent may be on a busted draw and bluffing

7) good

poker1O1

01-07-2006, 03:35 AM

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5) reads? I'd fold preflop with a caller. 3-bet flop

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I'm not going to make a better hand fold here am I?

poker1O1

01-07-2006, 03:37 AM

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4) just fold the flop. If you decide to raise, however, bet the turn. Lots of fold equity here.

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At minimum you have the odds to call the flop for your gutshot straight, therefore raising for a free card is appropriate if it will work, the only real question is to bet the turn here or check it and hope to get 2 bets in on the river

Ron Burgundy

01-07-2006, 04:53 AM

1. In moderation? I dunno what that means. If the CO is weak/tight, I'd do that every time, if he's a loose tard, I'd never do it.

2. Raise the turn, call down if 3bet.

3. I don't get the flop c/r at all. You're raising to build a big pot with TPNK? Just lead out anddon't give them good odds to see the turn with crap draws.

4. Bet the turn. He might fold a J or 9, and if he doesn't it's ok because you have so many outs.

5. 3bet preflop.

6. WTF dood? Gotta call the river.

7. This belongs in BBV forum. You're a dick for making everybody read 6 hands and then that.