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drbst
01-06-2006, 11:04 AM
Hi, I cannot see how the following can end in a tie ... am I blind?

1st player: Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif
2nd player: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

board: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif

No ties are visible to me here.

However ...

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1448632
pokenum -h qh jh - 2c 2d -- kh th ts 3c
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing Ts 3c Kh Th
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qh Jh 23 52.27 19 43.18 2 4.55 0.545
2c 2d 19 43.18 23 52.27 2 4.55 0.455

Bez
01-06-2006, 11:36 AM
3 on the river (not a heart). 2 pair Ts and 3s with K kicker.

fiskebent
01-06-2006, 11:37 AM
a non-heart 3 ties it

drbst
01-06-2006, 11:40 AM
Thanks! I did not see the higher kicker on the board.

AaronBrown
01-06-2006, 12:02 PM
By the way, there's a lot of money to be made by noticing two-pair on the board situations. If 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif shows up on the river, a sloppy player 1 will fold because he didn't hit his straight or flush.

This is particularly important when the cards on the board are high. A board with Aces and Queens makes a pocket pair of Jacks lose to K2.

This is usually only matters for four-card hand boards; two pair or four of a kind (not that you see many four of a kinds on the board). Five-card hand boards, straights, flushes and full houses make almost all pocket cards irrelevant; and three or fewer card hands on the board allow the use of both pocket cards.