PDA

View Full Version : NL50: QQ: Villain 4bets preflop

Aquadougs
12-01-2007, 02:54 PM
Villain: 75/35/1,3 (28)


Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com (http://www.leggopoker.com) - Hand History Converter (http://www.leggopoker.com/hh)

CO: $67.43
BTN: $47.75
Hero (SB): $50
BB: $54.25
UTG: $174.97

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $3, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.50</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $25</font>


What is his range?
Should I push?
Cueballmania
12-01-2007, 02:58 PM
JJ+, AK. I don't fold QQ against someone with those stats. Shove.
bsball8806
12-01-2007, 03:00 PM
I've seen 75/35's do this with 88-10's, and AQs too.
Cueballmania
12-01-2007, 03:10 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I've seen 75/35's do this with 88-10's, and AQs too.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, so have I. But UTG I narrow it somewhat. What I posted was worse case scenario.
limit refugee
12-01-2007, 03:12 PM
UTG is very deep and very aggro and enjoying his stack pushing everyone around. Easy push.

I see all kinds of pocket pairs doing this, and am not really thinking about a 70/35ers positional awareness too much to care that he is UTG.
Khaos4k
12-01-2007, 03:52 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I've seen 75/35's do this with 88-10's, and AQs too.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, so have I. But UTG I narrow it somewhat. What I posted was worse case scenario.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think a 75/35 has any clue whatsoever about the advantages of position.
stu-unger
12-01-2007, 04:02 PM
i dont fold QQ of w/o a sign from above, and i dont think that its a leak...
bsball8806
12-01-2007, 04:02 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I've seen 75/35's do this with 88-10's, and AQs too.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, so have I. But UTG I narrow it somewhat. What I posted was worse case scenario.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think a 75/35 has any clue whatsoever about the advantages of position.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agree
CyberMuppet
12-01-2007, 04:37 PM
I would push, against a 75/30 I don't fold QQ pf without divine intervention.
Aquadougs
12-02-2007, 12:21 AM
How "good" should his stats be to consider folding/calling with this hand in this situation?
Altreg
12-02-2007, 02:03 AM
KK and AA
kaipwn
12-02-2007, 02:34 AM
probably low 20s where u can be sure villain isnt liable to play total crap.
20/15 maybe
PugsMcGee
12-02-2007, 02:45 AM
His range is 88's-AA's, AJ-AK

With his stats, I never fold this. I would say that your best play is to push.
Etats360
12-02-2007, 03:14 AM
I'd be shoving pretty much everything I 3-bet with here
vixticator
12-02-2007, 03:21 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I'd be shoving everything I 3-bet with here

[/ QUOTE ]