NL50: Multiway. OOP with overpair

[Aquadougs]

MP: 51/30/2 (27)
CO: 74/31/1,6 (27)


Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BTN: $67.43
SB: $48
Hero (BB): $56.41
UTG: $111.75
CO: $93.22

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.50, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($12.25) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $2.50</font>, CO calls $2.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, UTG calls $13.50, CO calls $13.50

Turn: ($60.25) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $6</font>, CO calls $6, Hero calls $6

River: ($78.25) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $10.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $31.50</font>


What do you think?

[bsball8806]

4bet preflop, especially against these crazy villains

Lead flop for like 10. The weird thing is that CO calls UTG's raise, then cold calls your reraise. For most villains, this would be a line of extreme strength and I'd be inclined to put him on no less than a set, but I'm not so sure against this guy. I'd still intend to get it AI on this flop, it's very possible CO has like AJ or some stupid crap.

I think you kinda butchered the turn, the 2 doesn't really change anything unless someone had 35. I value shove the turn as played.

On the river as you played it, I think you have to fold, we beat nothing, even though we're getting really good odds. It's looking more likely that one of them has a set, and the other one has a 3.

[limit refugee]

With those two loonies, both playing deep and aggro, I 4 bet this one healthily pre flop. $18-20 and open shove the flop if called.

With the preflop call, I just lead, but if I c/r, i do it bigger...23 leaves enough to open shove on the turn into a caller...I just want it in and fast, your way ahead of their ranges.

[mephisto]

Agree with limit refugee, I'd personally raise to $18 pf, and bet a healthy amount on flop so that all other decisions in the hand are secondary.

[Aquadougs]

4bet big with KK+ and AK too?

[JimboNYY24]

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4bet big with KK+ and AK too?

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Yup...and please get it in on the turn. This hand was buthered pretty badly...the river looks like a fold.

EDI: by this hand being butchered i meant the turn obv

[cowpig]

preflop 4bet is probably better than your smooth call, but it's not THAT big a deal.

your flop line is perfect given your smooth call preflop, and then you check the turn.... wtf? JAM THAT ISH