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Mhaz
11-30-2007, 05:17 AM
Villain is 25/15.4/5.5 over 52 hands.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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SB: $70.20
BB: $49.60
UTG: $49.70
CO: $51.30
Hero (BTN): $80

Pre-Flop: 7/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $11</font>, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($26.50) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $57.20 and is All-In</font>, Hero ...

Get my stack in on the flop? As played, fold?

themandude
11-30-2007, 05:34 AM
He looks to be representing maybe pocket 3's or AT or something. If he was at all aggressive I would 3 bet him strong on the flop because it is very drawy. On the turn you donk bet him I don't know why maybe to slow him down, but you shouldn't do that if you can't afford to call a raise. And him raising you here again is very strong I think you have to fold.

youngmachetes
11-30-2007, 05:35 AM
3-bet flop, and i would call turn.

highsteptd
11-30-2007, 05:55 AM
As played, I would call. You're getting laid about 3-1, though I fear for 33.

Otherwise, I'd 3bet fold to a shove.

gbporkpie
11-30-2007, 06:02 AM
Get it in on flop for sure, he's not folding. Preflop looks pretty gross to me.

As played it's hard to see how you're not beat here, but I'd probably call this in the heat of the moment. I'm going to guess villain showed AA.

youngmachetes
11-30-2007, 06:05 AM
are you serious?

YesMehFriend
11-30-2007, 08:56 AM
I call and river the 7.
Seriously: 3bet flop, its a blind steal situation he could be raising with many draws, TP-hands ... and the board is quite drawy.
His line is strange: I cant see the A improve him except when he holds AT (does he call that pre?) but I also doubt he uses the A as a scarecard to c/rai with a draw.
Only 33/77/(AT) really make sense for me.
But it still feels like a call if I were at the table ...

youngmachetes
11-30-2007, 09:52 AM
i would put Axss in his range also.

Lego05
11-30-2007, 11:01 AM
Pre-flop is standard for me.

I would usually 3bet the flop.

As played call.

patrick10
11-30-2007, 11:05 AM
hmm, tbh i am pretty confused. Villain check raises the flop and turn. yes he is super aggro, but still. On the flop we have

Board: Ts 7s 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 75.515% 75.51% 00.01% 43356 5.00 { Tc7c }
Hand 1: 24.485% 24.48% 00.01% 14054 5.00 { TT+, 77, 33, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, ATs, AQo+ }

The Ace is a really bad card as it helps ALOT of the hands in villains range. On the Turn, we drop to 2-1 dog, getting $37 to win $103.7 , so i actually think as played, CALL - but i am not super happy with it exactly.

(alot of my range includes A high draws because the villain is so aggressive, so i could be wrong if you disagree with that)

cjs
11-30-2007, 11:18 AM
Is a standard flop 3 bet $30?

MEC2210
11-30-2007, 02:11 PM
I put him on an Ax FD...I call but don't really like it. Doesn't make sense for him to raise his set on the flop. You're obv showing agg and he can wait to see if the board gets more drawy and C/R the turn, I don't think he'd be too concerned with the spades anyways and although it's fairly drawy it's also fairly dry. A fold isn't terrible but I don't think I would lay it down.

il_martilo
11-30-2007, 02:15 PM
Iīm not super happy about the situation, but I canīt imagine folding here. Also, you HAVE to 3-bet the flop here so stacks donīt end up awkward on the turn... like they did here.

Altreg
12-01-2007, 04:10 AM
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Pre-flop is standard for me.

I would usually 3bet the flop.

As played call.

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cheer
12-01-2007, 07:33 AM
3 bet flop

DaveC101
12-01-2007, 09:17 AM
Odds say you should probably call, but it really seems like your beat. He doesn't have a strong enough Ace hand that he would shove with just top pair (like AK maybe AQ). A10 or a set is most likely for him, and maybe AXs. I think 3-betting flop is best move here and most likely calling if he shoves.