Overpair Multiway Pot (Ugly Turn)

[tme03]

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 280982338 *****
NL $0.10/$0.20 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, November 29, 15:01:15 GMT 2007
Table Sodium 05 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: niklasweste ( $27.41 )
Seat 2: TOT4LK4OS ( $8.32 )
Seat 3: MrW ( $18.86 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $20 )
Seat 5: DaniKxarro ( $19.35 )
Seat 6: harchibald3 ( $27.12 )
TOT4LK4OS posts small blind [ $0.10 ]
MrW posts big blind [ $0.20 ]

Holecards:
Dealt to Hero [ Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif ]
Hero raises to [ $0.70 ]
CALL DaniKxarro, $0.70
CALL harchibald3, $0.70
niklasweste folds
TOT4LK4OS folds
CALL MrW, $0.50

Flop: $2.90
[ 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, 10 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif ]
MrW checks
BET Hero , $2.40
CALL DaniKxarro, $2.40
CALL harchibald3, $2.40
CALL MrW, $2.40

Turn: $12.50
[ 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif ]
MrW checks
Hero checks
DaniKxarro checks
BET harchibald3, $10
MrW folds

HERO???

[limit refugee]

Is that an ugly turn? Am I missing something?

I bet 10. Lots of draws and plenty of value out there.

[tme03]

54 and 89 now have a straight.

[wingchunflush]

He is betting because you checked, you are underrepping your hand. I Lead the turn again, if you get raised you can fold.

[tme03]

So you lead into 3 players again.

How much do you lead for and what do you do if re-raised (If I lead for $10, I would have $7 left and would be getting great odds to call).

Can I ask what possible hands ranges you put my opponents on after the flop.

[limit refugee]

Heart draw, 10/J-A, A6, 99, possibly 54...who knows, but I'm not seeing anyone acting like they have trips yet, and if anybody is so sucktacular that they flopped 2 pair, I'll get the money back soon anyway.


I can't give free cards and I can't check fold with an overpair. I have to lead. If I'm raised I grimace and wish I had reads. But if it goes all in, I do to, hitting reload on chips as I call.

[tme03]

I understand that you don't what to give free cards, but they must know I have a big hand here after the flop. I'm not betting that flop with worse than AT, and with me been UTG its more likely I have an overpair.

I would bet the turn as you would if I was OTB (last to act) and it was checked to me, but I'm UTG with 2 more players to act who both called a strong flop bet.

I think checking controls the pot size and gives me more information about there hands with out getting me committed.

[tme03]

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Heart draw, 10/J-A, A6, 99, possibly 54...who knows

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Just ran this through Pokerstove and giving my three opponents this range, I have 25% equity.

[derosnec]

keep betting. so many hands have missed and so many crap one pairs will come along.

[tme03]

Does anyone think checking to gain information was a good idea?, lol.

And what do you do once I check and he bets $10?

[limit refugee]

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Heart draw, 10/J-A, A6, 99, possibly 54...who knows

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Just ran this through Pokerstove and giving my three opponents this range, I have 25% equity.

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We just disagree then. The only way for A6 to take advantage of his limited equity is by seeing another card. Bet the turn and he won't have a chance. Same with 99. Same with JT. Same with a heart draw. Combined they have plenty of equity against you, but with a healthy bet most will fold, maybe 1 makes a bad call.

If you check call the turn how do you avoid calling off your whole stack anyhow. If the turn checks through and a 2h or a 9 or a K come on the river, what is your plan?

If you lost or made an accidentally correct fold to a flukey hand, it happens. I can't check here.