$25NL 3bet pot... spew or good bluff?

[slush420]

Villain is 16/14/2.5 in a relatively small sample. Seems solid yet transparent. This is my 2nd 3bet pot in which he 3betted. Last time he c-betted OOP and I folded.

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Hero ($25.25)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($23.45)
UTG ($25.25)
MP ($28.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2.25.

Flop: ($6.75) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.25</font>, SB calls $4.25.

Turn: ($15.25) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $17.75 (All-In)

[NeverScurred]

Fold to his preflop 3-bet. Turn seems pretty spewy to me. I don't really like it.

[Ramana]

I fold pf, because unless he has AA KK he's not going to give u enough action when u hit, which will be rare. Your bluff is alright i guess, you have tons of FE, but I'd like to have some outs in these spots though.

[slush420]

Sorry let me add I was 21/16 in the session and generally not out of line cbetting flops ~60% of the time.

[chadmack]

it's easy to get annoyed when someone comes over u from the blinds more than once in a short period of time, but just wait til u have a better hand pf to call. as for the shove i think it's pretty unnecessary, i'd check behind to see the river at least.

[slush420]

given villain is solid, wouldn't you say most of his range that beats ours would CRAI or at least lead out on the flop?

[mickb70]

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given villain is solid, wouldn't you say most of his range that beats ours would CRAI or at least lead out on the flop?

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depends on what he thinks of you.

[Josh!]

Honestly, with like AK I'm probably looking you up here on the turn. The all-in shove on this kind of board absolutely reeks of desperation. Especially given your history with the guy. If you're going to bluff that you've got an overpair, play the hand like an overpair would. And an overpair is looking for value here, not racing to get it all in.

I think from calling the pf reraise onwards, this is almost all spew.

[slush420]

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Honestly, with like AK I'm probably looking you up here on the turn. The all-in shove on this kind of board absolutely reeks of desperation. Especially given your history with the guy. If you're going to bluff that you've got an overpair, play the hand like an overpair would. And an overpair is looking for value here, not racing to get it all in.

I think from calling the pf reraise onwards, this is almost all spew.

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I think this is a perfect spot to rep JJ or QQ here. I am not looking to value bet here but am looking to protect my hand. And there is no way your standard 25NL TAG will look this up enough with AK to be unprofitable if in fact he does have AK.

[Josh!]

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Honestly, with like AK I'm probably looking you up here on the turn. The all-in shove on this kind of board absolutely reeks of desperation. Especially given your history with the guy. If you're going to bluff that you've got an overpair, play the hand like an overpair would. And an overpair is looking for value here, not racing to get it all in.

I think from calling the pf reraise onwards, this is almost all spew.

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I think this is a perfect spot to rep JJ or QQ here. I am not looking to value bet here but am looking to protect my hand. And there is no way your standard 25NL TAG will look this up enough with AK to be unprofitable if in fact he does have AK.

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What I meant was, his 3-betting range probably is not wide enough to include AQ and below. Which means his range is pretty much AK &amp; TT+. Which means if he's looking you up with AK some of the time, and with the rest of them all of the time, then you're losing a lot of money in the long run.

[eastern motors]

It seems like you are repping 22/88/TT here. I just don't think your line is believable with no draws on the board. How often do you overbet shove the turn with a boat when villain's range is full of overpairs that might stack off when given two streets to do so.

You might fold out AK or AQ here but it looks spewy to me unless he has a really wide 3-bet range for 25NL.

[Supwithbates]

this line is super-spew

[Speedlimits]

fold pf lol wtf