SlimboKarvell
11-28-2007, 05:32 PM
Hello,
I read the post from fimbulwinter about calculating EV for making an All In bet and calling and All In bet but what I'm struggling most with is to apply it on the table. I think in these hands I did both times the right decision, but I really would like to know how I could calculate approximately while playing if my moves are correct.
Both hands the same villain, 20/10/3, calls PFR 4%. I put him on strong to very strong hands.
My problem is to work with hand ranges: if I put him on a set on hand 1: no problem, I have 9-8 outs to make my flush (~32% or sth.). But what now if I want to calculate my chance of winning if I put him on a set OR A high flush draw? Do I add the % and / 2? Like against a set = 32%, against A high ~70% (if he doesnt catch an A or flush) --> 102/2 = 51% of winning? Is that correct (the idea matters, not the real %).
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)
Stack sizes:
Hero: $20.62
UTG+1: $16.58
CO: $7.47
Button: $9.47
SB: $32.78
BB: $20.01
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.8</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.
Flop: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($2.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.75</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $9.54</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $16.07</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $9.87</font>.
Uncalled bets: $9.87 returned to BB.
Turn: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($28.11, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $34.64)
River: 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($28.11, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $34.64)
Results:
Final pot: $28.11
In this hand I know I'm beat, but just for exercise I would like to know how to calculate on the table how often I need to win when I call to make it profitable. I think I only beat JJ, so it wont be profitable, but just to get the math.
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($3.1, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, BB calls, UTG folds.
Turn: 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($7.1, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls.
River: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($15.1, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $10</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $10 returned to BB.
Results:
Final pot: $15.1
I hope so. can explain me how to calculate these things fast while playing /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Thank you!
P.S. I dont bother with fold Equity because he probably wont fold a hand here /images/graemlins/wink.gif
I read the post from fimbulwinter about calculating EV for making an All In bet and calling and All In bet but what I'm struggling most with is to apply it on the table. I think in these hands I did both times the right decision, but I really would like to know how I could calculate approximately while playing if my moves are correct.
Both hands the same villain, 20/10/3, calls PFR 4%. I put him on strong to very strong hands.
My problem is to work with hand ranges: if I put him on a set on hand 1: no problem, I have 9-8 outs to make my flush (~32% or sth.). But what now if I want to calculate my chance of winning if I put him on a set OR A high flush draw? Do I add the % and / 2? Like against a set = 32%, against A high ~70% (if he doesnt catch an A or flush) --> 102/2 = 51% of winning? Is that correct (the idea matters, not the real %).
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)
Stack sizes:
Hero: $20.62
UTG+1: $16.58
CO: $7.47
Button: $9.47
SB: $32.78
BB: $20.01
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.8</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.
Flop: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($2.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.75</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $9.54</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $16.07</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $9.87</font>.
Uncalled bets: $9.87 returned to BB.
Turn: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($28.11, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $34.64)
River: 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($28.11, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $34.64)
Results:
Final pot: $28.11
In this hand I know I'm beat, but just for exercise I would like to know how to calculate on the table how often I need to win when I call to make it profitable. I think I only beat JJ, so it wont be profitable, but just to get the math.
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.20
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($3.1, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, BB calls, UTG folds.
Turn: 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($7.1, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls.
River: 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($15.1, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $10</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $10 returned to BB.
Results:
Final pot: $15.1
I hope so. can explain me how to calculate these things fast while playing /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Thank you!
P.S. I dont bother with fold Equity because he probably wont fold a hand here /images/graemlins/wink.gif