NL50 JJ Sanity check pre-flop

[thoman8r]

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UTG ($80.30)
Button ($46.30)
SB ($60.55)
Hero ($51)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???? </font>

Button is 23/12/1.5 and seems solid.
UTG is 36/14/0.84 and a donk.

What are we doing here?

[Spurious]

2 options:
folding
calling for set value
4betting AI will only be called by worse hands

[SkeetyMcdoogle]

You can't call for set value profitably in the long run, and if you push his range has you crushed.

Readless, I fold here. You have an UTG raise and then a RR from a tight player.

[Nick Royale]

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You can't call for set value profitably in the long run, and if you push his range has you crushed.

Readless, I fold here. You have an UTG raise and then a RR from a tight player.

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UTG=CO

I probably call and play some poker. Nothing wrong with folding though. I don't like 4-betting as it would basically turn your hand into a bluff.

[tweak]

I'd call, and re-evaluate on a non AK board

[thoman8r]

I agree 4-betting is out of the question. I should also add this is the first time I've seen the player on the button 3-bet PF, although it has been a small sample. IRL I folded, which I hated but it didn't really seem like there were any good options.

[thoman8r]

Ok, let's say theoretically we call. UTG also calls The flop comes out

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Do we b/f? c/c?

[kroeliewoelie]

I think folding is your best option here. You are OOP and are crushed by his 3bet range.

[TKWest]

Dont forget that if you are considering calling for set value that the CO has yet to act behind you and may reraise or push all-in.

You would then be faced with a tougher decision involving your whole stack.

[Nick Royale]

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Ok, let's say theoretically we call. UTG also calls The flop comes out

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Do we b/f? c/c?

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If you decide to call and it gets hu to this flop I just check and shove over his $10 bet. I would never ever lead.

[limit refugee]

I've learned that im more than happy to let this go pre flop. A 23/12 is not iso 3betting, he's got a hand that is good, and now post flop oop you'll have problems with most flops (like your example).