T9s RR pot. Line Check

[simonpoker]

First orbit on the table.

Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com (http://www.leggopoker.com) - Hand History Converter (http://www.leggopoker.com/hh)

Hero (BTN): $22.80
SB: $14.93
BB: $36.19
UTG: $53.16
MP: $45.33
CO: $16.51

Pre-Flop: T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $3.50</font>, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.10) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($14.10) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7

River: ($28.10) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $22.19 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $8.80 and is All-In

[SSDas]

I play it the same, maybe someone will advocate raising the flop or turn, but i really don't think it achieves anything here.

[mattgoody]

When you call the turn ur getting 3 to 1 on ur call and if you expect to get the rest of his money if u hit and fold if u miss, then ur getting calling 7$ to win 30ish. ur getting a little over 4 to 1, but you only have 9 outs to hit out of 46 remaining unknown cards. hes also likely to have an Ace or a King or both and if so has a 1/3 chance of having a diamond rather than 1/4. It just makes you hitting a diamond a little less likely. Anyway, without taking that into consideration, you only getting like 4.3:1 when u need over 5:1.

I think. Please someone correct me if im being retarded.

[MatteyA28]

I play it the same as well. I don't think raising is going to get an ace to fold the turn, which is most of his range. A flop raise could get JJ-KK to fold but I feel like calling then betting a blank turn if he checks will get more folds while still allowing you to draw to the flush.

[SSDas]

He's calling $7 to win $30 so he's getting 4.28 to one yeh.

You don't need over 5-1 though, the chances of making the flush are 18%, which is basicaly 4-1.

[mattgoody]

Right, right. my bad. he is getting the odds to call. its like 37:9 so yeah. I like the call because a raise is basically min and since hes going to get it in either way, might as well save the 8.8 if he misses.

[gregorio]

Fold preflop. You are calling off more than 10% of your stack with an SC. You do not have the implied odds to call here.

[Profish2285]

Reload pf. Then fold pf unless you think youre getting 3 bet light.

[gregorio]

Read these about calling with implied odds hands
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=5523887
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Board=ssplnlpoker&amp;Number=852241 9
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rt=all&amp;vc=1 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=6996709&amp;page=0&amp;fpart=all &amp;vc=1)

[simonpoker]

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Read these about calling with implied odds hands
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=5523887
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Board=ssplnlpoker&amp;Number=852241 9
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rt=all&amp;vc=1 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=6996709&amp;page=0&amp;fpart=all &amp;vc=1)

[/ QUOTE ]

Thank you!

[Nick Royale]

Fold preflop. Raise flop and stack off.

[gregorio]

Of course, first time I ever stacked someone for 150BB was when I made a horrible call of a 3bet in position with 87s and flopped a straightflush draw and got it all in on flop vs KK and hit on the river. I am up over 10BB/hand lifetime calling 3bets in position with SCs, but I have only done it about 10 times in the last 20,000 hands.