NL 25 - AQs on all streets

[reemas]

Only 20 hands with opponent but he was pretty loose about 40-50 vpip and a pfr% of 5-8. Not many reads. Please evaluate all streets:

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players

CO: $24.10
BTN: $24.65
SB: $12.15
BB: $17.15
UTG: $46
Hero (MP): $26.75

Pre-Flop: A/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($5.35) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($5.35) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.75</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $6</font>, Hero ?

Raise or call? What range do we put opponent on?

[Micro Donk]

its bad enough you checked the flop, bet like 4 on the turn and reraise him...you have to put $ in the pot somewhere

[KEW]

Bet your hand!!!!! They will not always do it for you!!!!

Bet flop,,Bet $4-4.75 on turn and re-raise as played..

You are missing mad value by slowplaying like this...

[doppelganger]

If you're going to 3bet against an UTG raise PF (and I generally don't, but it's read dependent - against those stats I'm just calling and playing mainly for 2pair/flush/straight value) then make your bet bigger, more like $3-$3.50.

Just bet the flop. Get it all in on the turn if possible.

I don't understand where the question is? Straight flushes are nowhere near this guy's PF raising range, so either he has an overpair and you can stack him, or he's got something like AK and will get away. Regardless, you have the nut flush and need to be nudging as much money into the pot as your opponent will allow.

[nashman1313]

Slow roll him like you have a decision. Push.


IDK I dont flop Nut flushes.

[Peak01]

Bet Flop!

As played reraise and get the money.

[winnnar]

Wow, what a misplayed monster. At least bet $3 on flop, it disguises your hand and makes getting money in on later streets that much easier.

as played, raise to $16 or shove, but I doubt he'll call.

[Lego05]

Grunch....


Pre-flop with these positions against this opponent I won't always 3bet. If you do though you need to raise bigger pre-flop. A 3bet of 2.5 times his initial raise there is not big enough. I like to make it 3.5 with no callers in between.


Make your standard flop c-bet. Checking there is bad. Another club lands and you have nearly 0% shot at getting more money in the pot....+ you just lost a street of value if he has something and now the pot will be smaller. And you should be c-betting a high % of the time so if you are doing that then betting the flop here is just normal.....that's a big advantage to c-betting so much (it's usually immediately profitable) but it also disguises hands like these when we bet the flop.


Turn....Your bet is way too small.

Now...ReRaise: I really don't even bother thinking about his range much here...hero has the nuts and just got check raised on the turn. He might have a straight with a random 7, a lower flush, a set. W/e.....raise....if another club hits it will kill your action.

[iheartponeez]

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A 3bet of 2.5 times his initial raise there is not nig enough.

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You couldn't be more wight.

[leyhal]

***Preflop: You have a good hand and position so reraise is fine.
***Flop: He "checks to the raiser", expecting you to bet pretty much any hand. Like a previous poster says, your monster is disguised so you should bet here and hope he caught a bit of the board or has a draw and will chase. If he has absolutely nothing and folds then that's poker, you wouldn't have made anything anyway. If he has hit some unlikely hand like 2- pair, a set or a straight you lose loads of value by not betting.
***Turn: Again you have missed value. Why not make your initial turn bet 2/3 or full pot? He check-raised you so basically he is saying he turned a straight. If he is bluffing he will fold to any raise unless he is stupid. If he has a big hand then you have him by the short and curlies. For this reason I think you should reraise all in on the turn, unless you think he is the type to try an all-in 2nd bluff on the river (representing a straight which beats your assumed bigh pair). If you think he will try that then just call on the turn.

[Lego05]

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A 3bet of 2.5 times his initial raise there is not nig enough.

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You couldn't be more wight.

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It was clearly a typo. I don't get what you are doing.

[infinity235]

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hero has the nuts

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never expected lego to say something like this....

PF: You don't need to 3bet this all the time. If you do so, please be reminded that you will be playing for stacks if you flop TPTK or better. If you 3-bet, please make at least a pot-sized raise... or 3-4 times the original raise, which means reraising to like $3.5 or so.

Flop:

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At least bet $3 on flop

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Hm, well, yeah, after thinking for a while, I think betting close to 1/2 or 2/3 pot is better than full potting... though against regulars or attentive (at least 2nd level) players, this is a must PSB, because you want to make any flush draws pay...yes, they are drawing pretty thin (if not dead already), but potting the flop disguises your hand even more, representing TP, 2P or a set that is scared of the flush draw.

If you get raised, it's a more "difficult" situation... you want to extract the most value (discounting the fact that your hand is actually "only" the third nuts), so calling a raise might be fine, but just be reminded that you are unlikely to get action once another club comes... I like to get it in on the flop if raised.

Turn: As played, I shove. Now your line probably screams monster but you missed a lot of value by not betting the flop... and at NL25, no one pays attention to you anyway.

[piebear]

Don't RR PF, just call. Bet the flop!

As played, just call. Get as much as you can in on the river.

[Lego05]

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hero has the nuts

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never expected lego to say something like this....

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You're right. It's close enough though....all I'm thinking about is getting money into the pot.

[djj6835]

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A 3bet of 2.5 times his initial raise there is not nig enough.

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[/ QUOTE ] It was clearly a typo. I don't get what you are doing.


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Racism ban

[Knightsridge]

why re-raise pre when you said his pfr is 5-8. I like flat calling these hands v players like that. As for the flop, bet that!!! Its exactly players with 40-50 vpip that will gift you their stacks in this spot. He has a high pair poss KK w K of clubs. Bet flop, bet turn, and by this time, hopefully your river bet will be near, if not is, an all in.
As played, raise turn because you need the pot to be big for a big river bet to be paid off.

[simonpoker]

Bet the flop as said bet the turn, here try to get it all in.

[ama0330]

Id bet the flop, but here I would time down and shove