QQ-sticky spot preflop

[OSUGreg1983]

Villain 17/6 over 35 hands. UTG is 19/13. Against these stats I dont think I'm ahead often here, but then again the sample size is pretty small.


Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $10.65
MP: $11.70
CO: $10.50
BTN: $4.45
SB: $9.05
Hero (BB): $26.05

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.30</font>, MP calls $0.30, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.30</font>, Hero

[kerk]

What is UTGs stats?

[OSUGreg1983]

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What is UTGs stats?

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edited in post

[RelaxedPrecision]

Push all in. QQ is good here.

[Profish2285]

I muck pf. If they were looser I 4b pf but I cant imagine a 19/13 is raising loose utg and then a 17/6 is 3 betting him light. Youre looking at JJ+ and AK+ from the 17/6, and it really could be more like QQ+

[ICMoney]

Not sure if they 3b light at 10nl but I'm 4betting to $4 and going with it.

[ajmargarine]

Just fold man. Go with your gut. If they both show you JJ, w/e, it don't matter, there's a million more hands to play in less murky spots.

[Profish2285]

Is someone who is raising 6% of his hands 3 betting with less than QQ vs a utg raise?

[kerk]

i 4 bet/fold to a shove from UTG/call shove from SB

[ajmargarine]

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i 4 bet/fold to a shove from UTG/call shove from SB

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Putting more than 25% of your stack in preflop and then never seeing a flop with it is baaaaaad.

[Profish2285]

Yea if I 4b Im either going with it or Im going to 4b with air. Why make QQ air?

[vixticator]

I don't think it matters, if you don't mind some variance shove.

[kerk]

because both raisers are not exactly loose. i would not be folding this very often but if UTG comes over the top i am almost never calling this.
edti: also i think a smaller 4bet looks much stronger than aan overshove

[ICMoney]

It's 35 hands.

I've run 10/7 over 35 hands before.

Prob even tighter.

[Speedlimits]

4bet/call shove

[ajmargarine]

Just go with the flow. If it felt right in the flow of the game to fold, just fold. I've folded QQ in spots like this before. If it feels right to 4b, do it. I did yesterday with TT and the 3-bettor pushed 88 on me.

[OSUGreg1983]

Thought I'd share the results...SB had what my gut was telling me...but my stupid ass decided to call for set value...lol i dont know what im thinking cause this is a terrible play, UTG could come over the top. Or if UTG flat calls then I dont know if I'm ahead or not. Check out what MP calls his stack off with on the flop.

Is it ever ok to call preflop here?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com (http://www.leggopoker.com) - Hand History Converter (http://www.leggopoker.com/hh)

UTG: $10.65
MP: $11.70
CO: $10.50
BTN: $4.45
SB: $9.05
Hero (BB): $26.05

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.30</font>, MP calls $0.30, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.30</font>, Hero calls $1.20, UTG calls $1, MP calls $1

Flop: ($5.20) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $7.75 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15.50</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $10.40 and is All-In

Turn: ($33.75) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($33.75) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $33.75 Pot ($1.65 Rake)
MP mucked J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif and LOST (-$11.70 NET)
SB mucked A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif and LOST (-$9.05 NET)
Hero showed Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (three of a kind, Queens) and WON $32.10 (+$20.40 NET)