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hitch1978
11-25-2007, 08:24 PM
GO!

(If you don't answer, you're a pussy)

chezlaw
11-25-2007, 08:27 PM
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The ability to do cognitive tasks with a gun at your head.

chez

vhawk01
11-25-2007, 08:30 PM
Abstaining from this thread.

tame_deuces
11-25-2007, 08:33 PM
When put in the necessary circumstances, I definitively agree with Chezlaw.

Reminds me a bit of some military training. Put into very physically exhaustive and emotionally exhaustive situations with lots of sleep deprival you can be expected to learn things very quickly. These are not the most advanced subjects on earth, but the learning environment is so radically different from a classic academic environment that classic definitions of intelligence would fail to measure very important aspects of the necessary cognitive abilities.

bigpooch
11-25-2007, 08:43 PM
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence:

[ The neutrality of this article is disputed. ]

The definition of intelligence has long been a matter of controversy.

Intelligence comes from the Latin verb "intellegere", which means "to understand". By this rationale, intelligence (as understanding) is arguably different from being "smart" (able to adapt to one's environment), or being "clever" (able to creatively adapt). By the Latin definition, intelligence arguably has to do with a deeper understanding of the relationships of all things around us; and with a capability for metaphysical manipulation of such objects once such understanding is mastered.

At least two major "consensus" definitions of intelligence have been proposed. First, from Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns, a report of a task force convened by the American Psychological Association in 1995:

Individuals differ from one another in their ability to understand complex ideas, to adapt effectively to the environment, to learn from experience, to engage in various forms of reasoning, to overcome obstacles by taking thought. Although these individual differences can be substantial, they are never entirely consistent: a given person’s intellectual performance will vary on different occasions, in different domains, as judged by different criteria. Concepts of "intelligence" are attempts to clarify and organize this complex set of phenomena. Although considerable clarity has been achieved in some areas, no such conceptualization has yet answered all the important questions and none commands universal assent. Indeed, when two dozen prominent theorists were recently asked to define intelligence, they gave two dozen somewhat different definitions.[1]

A second definition of intelligence comes from "Mainstream Science on Intelligence", which was signed by 52 intelligence researchers in 1994:

a very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings—"catching on", "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do.[2]


References:
[1] APA Task Force Report, "Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns"
http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/taboos/apa_01.html
[2] Mainstream Science on Intelligence reprinted in Gottfredson (1997). Intelligence p. 13
http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/taboos/wsj_main.html

bunny
11-25-2007, 08:50 PM
An ability to understand problems and solve them efficiently.

(But vhawk's answer is better)

InTheDark
11-25-2007, 09:56 PM
I don't know how to define it, but I know it when I see it.

Its absence if painfully obvious as well.

vhawk01
11-25-2007, 09:59 PM
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I don't know how to define it, but I know it when I see it.

Its absence if painfully obvious as well.

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How in the world did you manage not to bring up race or something here? I'll do it for you. You know it when you see it, just like race amirite?

FortunaMaximus
11-25-2007, 11:24 PM
Don't feed the animals, vhawk.

Splendour
11-25-2007, 11:28 PM
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Not answering this question or engaging in endless circular reasoning. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

omarmata1234
11-25-2007, 11:29 PM
owrainge

If you know what fruit that is then you are intelligent.

Metric
11-25-2007, 11:38 PM
(intelligence) = (focus)*[(creativity)^2/(crazy) + (problem solving)] - (inflexibility)

blah_blah
11-25-2007, 11:54 PM
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can't you keep your inane non sequiturs in your own thread?

FortunaMaximus
11-25-2007, 11:59 PM
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can't you keep your inane non sequiturs in your own thread?

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I do. This wasn't one, though. Sorry if that wasn't crystal clear.

vhawk01
11-26-2007, 12:13 AM
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can't you keep your inane non sequiturs in your own thread?

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It wasnt a non sequitur. I was trolling a troll, he called me on it, he was entirely correct.

furyshade
11-26-2007, 12:53 AM
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(intelligence) = (focus)*[(creativity)^2/(crazy) + (problem solving)] - (inflexibility)

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sadly this is probably the best definition we have gotten on this forum

thesnowman22
11-26-2007, 02:27 AM
Obvioulsy everyone defines this term their own way (usually how it fits them), but I do think we focus too much on just IQ or "book smarts". I think a truly intelligent person would excel at those and aslo be gifted in mnay areas using "common sense" or "emotional intelligence". All are valid definitions, but i think the "intelligence" i admire would be the type to use all these areas.

Ive always believed one of the greatest signs of intelligence is the ability to be objective, though of course If I think im objective may not be being objective...

I think too many times "super-intelligent" people are unable to see their own flaws. just another generalization.

furyshade
11-26-2007, 02:45 AM
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Obvioulsy everyone defines this term their own way (usually how it fits them), but I do think we focus too much on just IQ or "book smarts". I think a truly intelligent person would excel at those and aslo be gifted in mnay areas using "common sense" or "emotional intelligence". All are valid definitions, but i think the "intelligence" i admire would be the type to use all these areas.

Ive always believed one of the greatest signs of intelligence is the ability to be objective, though of course If I think im objective may not be being objective...

I think too many times "super-intelligent" people are unable to see their own flaws. just another generalization.

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well this is because super-intelligent people often have to live outside society, have to fight through a lot of people telling them their strengths are flaws to get where they are. i'll use the example i often use with Einstein, who spent years unable to find an academic career because he was too stuborn and defied convention. had he given into these he would never have made the revolutionary leaps he did

thesnowman22
11-26-2007, 03:05 AM
My point is that if i had to choose between these people:

A) 160 IQ, awkward socially, unable to see the worth in others views,

B) 160 IQ, psychopath, charming, murderer

c) 145 IQ, emotionally stable and socially skilled, a leader, objective, diplomatic, excellent dec. maker

...I think #3 is actually the smartest. However, our society needs some of both 1 and 3 to thrive as well as it can. Unfortunatley, we have some #2's also.

furyshade
11-26-2007, 03:09 AM
would you say the same if c) was a 105 IQ and had little to no creative reasoning skills?

thesnowman22
11-26-2007, 03:44 AM
No. But my point is u have to take everything into account.

pokervintage
11-26-2007, 03:56 PM
intelligence = existence.

Else, it is meaningless.

pokervintage

Richard Tanner
11-26-2007, 05:07 PM
The ability to assimilate, evaluate, and apply information usefullly.

Close?

Cody