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LOwrestling2001
11-22-2007, 07:19 PM
Villain is a 53/10/2 donkey. It really looks like a flush draw the way the hand has played out, what's our river action here?

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Button ($119.30)
SB ($13.85)
BB ($34.55)
UTG ($28.80)
Hero ($56.50)
CO ($39.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4.

Turn: ($12.25) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, BB calls $9.

River: ($30.25) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...
Sorcerer808
11-22-2007, 07:36 PM
Always shove here, he's got what, $20 left and he didn't even shove it. Why would it look like a flush?
LOwrestling2001
11-22-2007, 07:52 PM
just making sure =)
Lego05
11-22-2007, 07:56 PM
Yea shove it.
Profish2285
11-22-2007, 07:59 PM
If you check are you going to fold to a bet? If not then just shove it yourself. The reason I say that is because unless he has a flush, he is more than likely checking behind everything else. Meanwhile, he might call a bet with some of those hands.
Shattered
11-22-2007, 08:08 PM
That advice makes a lot more sense out of position. Regardless, it's still a shove.
Profish2285
11-22-2007, 08:11 PM
Whoops, thought we were oop. Shoving is still best imo. I gotta pay more attention to pf from now on.
dlorc
11-22-2007, 08:16 PM
Why are we shoving here?

We're in position and he is very unlikely to

A) have us beat
B) call us

the only way we get called if we shove is if we are beat.

He most likely called us down with a weak queen, a queen/jack with a straight draw or the flush draw - what exactly is he calling a shove on the river with except something that has us destroyed?

This is player dependant and uNL, so its read dependant, if I think he's a fishcake and calling with QJ/AQ/AJ then sure I shove.
ddrstel
11-22-2007, 08:19 PM
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Why are we shoving here?

We're in position and he is very unlikely to

A) have us beat
B) call us

the only way we get called if we shove is if we are beat.

He most likely called us down with a weak queen, a queen/jack with a straight draw or the flush draw - what exactly is he calling a shove on the river with except something that has us destroyed?

This is player dependant and uNL, so its read dependant, if I think he's a fishcake and calling with QJ/AQ/AJ then sure I shove.

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because i like money
Lego05
11-22-2007, 08:25 PM
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Why are we shoving here?

We're in position and he is very unlikely to

A) have us beat
B) call us

the only way we get called if we shove is if we are beat.

He most likely called us down with a weak queen, a queen/jack with a straight draw or the flush draw - what exactly is he calling a shove on the river with except something that has us destroyed?

This is player dependant and uNL, so its read dependant, if I think he's a fishcake and calling with QJ/AQ/AJ then sure I shove.

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Everybody is calling with QJ/KQ/AQ....like always....also with Q8 and J8....and I wouldn't be surprised to see this villian call with worse.