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iheartponeez
11-22-2007, 03:34 PM
It's really like the third hand

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com (http://weaktight.com/)

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$62.60</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$81.80</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$16.55</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$54.00</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$19.50</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$49.50</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif
<font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#777777">3 folds</font>, BB calls $1.5

Flop: 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($4.25, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $9</font>, Hero calls $6

Turn: 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($22.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $15</font>


Is there any way to continue on this turn?

EDIT: Was calling the flop raise a bad idea?
sluggger5x
11-22-2007, 03:36 PM
Pretty easy fold here. He either 3bet a set on the flop, or a semi draw that hit on the turn.
iheartponeez
11-22-2007, 03:42 PM
Was calling the flop raise a bad idea?
sluggger5x
11-22-2007, 06:32 PM
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Was calling the flop raise a bad idea?

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no...turn is an easy fold though. I call the small flop raise most of the time, ready to shut down if he leads any draw completing turn.
apple11
11-22-2007, 06:58 PM
no that is a terrible card just fold it
Nick Royale
11-22-2007, 07:03 PM
Fold the turn. I would proabbly push a blank turn .
Lego05
11-22-2007, 07:49 PM
Stats/Read.


Likely played well as long as you folded the turn.
Profish2285
11-22-2007, 08:00 PM
You guys dont like 3 betting this flop? Its fairly draw heavy and there are alot of bad turn cards that can kill our hand/action.
Shattered
11-22-2007, 08:15 PM
In general 3-betting, calling, or folding that flop is very player dependent. 3-betting is default for me against an unknown, but when you have no idea about your opponents' tendencies (most people don't play combo draws aggressively at uNL) I think that it's not too large a mistake in any direction. I mean, felting an overpair in this spot against a total unknown can't be that wrong, but it's probably not all that right, either.
Profish2285
11-22-2007, 09:02 PM
If I 3 bet this flop, Im not doing it soley to protect against draws. Like I said, alot of turn cards kill our hand but also kill our action. If villain is on a weaker hand and a bad card comes off it will likely scare him too. Against an unknown I have no problem at all getting it in here.
Profish2285
11-22-2007, 09:17 PM
3 combos of J6o represent air.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

30,690 games 0.002 secs 15,345,000 games/sec

Board: 9h 4h 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.780% 55.78% 00.00% 17119 0.00 { JdJh }
Hand 1: 44.220% 44.22% 00.00% 13571 0.00 { TT, 9c9d, 9c9s, 9d9s, 8d8h, 8h8s, 7c7d, 7c7s, 6c6h, 6c6s, 6h6s, 4c4d, 4c4s, 4d4s, AhJh, AhTh, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KhQh, KhTh, 8h7h, Jc6d, Jc6h, Jc6s }


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