Flopped flush facing river raise on 4straight board

[njdoo]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($2.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($2.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.25</font>, UTG calls.

River: 8/images/graemlins/club.gif ($6.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $15</font>

Guy is 36.7/13.3 7 river aggression factor
Do you shove?

[garethc]

Stack sizes?

[njdoo]

100bb each

[gfejs]

Im AI here... Hes turn call is weird if he has a flush (pretty moronic if he has). I think you will see a strait here often. I would timebank and then push AI.

[infinity235]

A made flush is unlikely to have played it this way... he would want more value and raise the turn. Shove. It's 7x often enough.

[Nemesis69]

I think he picked up an OESD on the turn. He got there on the river and overvaluated his hand. Anywas if I flop a flush I'm looking at it like the nuts. I take him to valuetown.

[idontlikeyou]

what would be a good value bet here? you think a shove pushes him off his straight? as bad as a min. raise is do you think we get much else out of him plus giving him the opportunity to push to our min. raise?

[Burcak]

I think you are good here almost all the time.

I don't think he calls but shove anyway.

[Saligia]

potb/3b flop, potbet turn, potbet/push river.

[Bonk]

Given stack sizes this can be a shove but I think something along the line of taking 20 seconds then making it 35-40 will get better results when you are ahead (if he has you beat you go broke anyway)

[njdoo]

Seems everyone agree that getting it in is best thing to do. That is what I did hoping that the straight calls no matter what. Unfortunately, the guy had AQs and I lost.

[Nemesis69]

That's just a cooler imo.

[Spurious]

i still dont understand your flop check...

your hand sucks if another spade hits
play small flushes fast

[munkey]

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still dont understand your flop check...

your hand sucks if another spade hits
play small flushes fast


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Bet flop for protection vs pairing/another spade -your hand is tre vulnerablis and obviously we bet for value -only higher flushes beat us.

Bet turn for same reason.

I think I b3bAI river given his high river aggro if over a decent sample - vs lessa aggro players I call the river raise - this looks like a slowplayed flopped 2pair+ but vs him I think I'll shove.

Edit: seen results now - cooler but still you could played it better.

[danilaisback]

shove it, if he floped the flush too there is no defense...

[argy1182]

Shove it...