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Profish2285
11-21-2007, 06:08 PM
No reads or stats on villain.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($73.75)
UTG ($50)
MP ($36.20)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($109.65)</font>
Button ($82.55)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($44)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $13</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero....
whyzze
11-21-2007, 06:15 PM
alot of villians range has you in pretty bad shape. Some more than others. A significant amount of your equity comes from 1 pair hands:

best case scenario, he has 99+. I think 99/TT/maybe JJ are very possible. Also top pair hands, like A8, Q8 so on, you have good FE and equity.

Bad 1 pair hands. 77/88. If villian has either of these, you are in horrible shape. He has killed alot of your outs and is well ahead.

He could have air sometimes.

The rest are made hands, these obviously have you pretty bad. Made straights and sets have u good.

So basically. Your equity kind of sucks. You only have good equity against hands that you have good FE against as well.


Also, we cant call very profitably because if we make a 2pair/straight, no implied odds.

blablabla, decifer my ramblings as you please, but i think a fold is best.
FalconTi0
11-21-2007, 06:27 PM
i dont think you have good fold equity against his range. getting 2-1 i think i call. against his range i think if you make your hand you can stack him. JMO
willyc
11-21-2007, 06:48 PM
Unless villain's been getting out of line a lot I would fold this pretty fast.
icheckraiseu
11-21-2007, 07:05 PM
Stealraise is ok, but if you get such a clear message - just fold. And you cant really call - look at his stack. You dont get implied odds.