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nashman1313
11-20-2007, 03:17 AM
3 way pot checked on turn I should fire here. Sometimes? Half the time?

[x]beat not full buy in

POKERSTARS GAME #13350859759: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.05/$0.10) - 2007/11/20 - 00:19:29 (ET)
Table 'Annschnell' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: isuck2410 ($2.60 in chips)
Seat 2: ScrewLuck ($21.15 in chips)
Seat 3: nashman1313 ($6.10 in chips)
Seat 4: trish1000 ($2.70 in chips)
Seat 5: dedmoney2u ($8.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Sangwich ($7.25 in chips)
trish1000: posts small blind $0.05
dedmoney2u: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nashman1313 [5d 4d]
Sangwich: raises $0.40 to $0.50
isuck2410: calls $0.50
ScrewLuck: calls $0.50
nashman1313: calls $0.50
trish1000: calls $0.45
dedmoney2u: folds
*** FLOP *** [4h Qd 8d]
trish1000: checks
Sangwich: checks
isuck2410: checks
ScrewLuck: bets $1
nashman1313: calls $1
trish1000: calls $1
Sangwich: folds
isuck2410: folds
*** TURN *** [4h Qd 8d] [8s]
trish1000: checks
ScrewLuck: checks
nashman1313: checks
*** RIVER *** [4h Qd 8d 8s] [2h]
trish1000: checks
ScrewLuck: checks
nashman1313: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
trish1000: shows [As Ts] (a pair of Eights)
ScrewLuck: shows [5c 5s] (two pair, Eights and Fives)
nashman1313: mucks hand
ScrewLuck collected $5.35 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.60 | Rake $0.25
Board [4h Qd 8d 8s 2h]
Seat 1: isuck2410 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: ScrewLuck showed [5c 5s] and won ($5.35) with two pair, Eights and Fives
Seat 3: nashman1313 (button) mucked [5d 4d]
Seat 4: trish1000 (small blind) showed [As Ts] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 5: dedmoney2u (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Sangwich folded on the Flop

gfejs
11-20-2007, 03:31 AM
No when you checked the turn you show alot of weakness espessially when you are last too act and its checked too you, I think 55 will look you up alot in this spot.

nashman1313
11-20-2007, 03:42 AM
I even considered pushing on the flop. Approx 3 in the pot 5.50 behind. Pair and flush draw. But figured it prolly -EV.

infinity235
11-20-2007, 04:25 AM
Please explain your reasoning why pushing the flop is -EV.

Schiester
11-20-2007, 04:32 AM
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Please explain your reasoning why pushing the flop is -EV.

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Only better pairs < 2p < sets are calling here leaving us drawing to between 9 and 11 (seldom 14 ) outs.

ie. alot of money with not much equity.

nashman1313
11-20-2007, 04:38 AM
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Please explain your reasoning why pushing the flop is -EV.

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Yeah. Im 50 50 against a made hand plus the money in the pot. My math is a weakspot i guess. Should have thought it through.

jessica1994
11-20-2007, 04:41 AM
lol at trish's play.

nashman1313
11-20-2007, 04:56 AM
I not really worried about the flop its close either way push/call.

Im more wondering if its a 3 way pot bet call call on semi drawy flop. Checked on blank turn = draw vs draw vs weak pair enough for me to bet 1/2 the pot on blank river.


I guess try this bluff 1/3 of the time. Hopefully with a good read on you opponents????