So is this what I am supposed to do with AK?

[sixsixtie]

Small blind is 16/14 bb is donkerific. I don't think he has any sort of hand so his push is a moot point.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com (http://www.leggopoker.com) - Hand History Converter (http://www.leggopoker.com/hh)

SB: $119.85
BB: $15.70
UTG: $45.80
Hero (MP): $53.05
CO: $161.85
BTN: $63.35

Pre-Flop: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $7.50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $15.70 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $53.05 and is All-In</font>, SB calls $45.55

Flop: ($121.80) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($121.80) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($121.80) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $121.80 Pot ($3 Rake)

[bored]

If BB isn't there, I probably just 4 bet; with BB there I fold.

Edit: In the interest of posting better; I'll elaborate.

Once BB shoves AI, you have $2 invested so far. SB will likely call this unless he was on a total steal. If you shove now, SB's range for calling is something like QQ+, AK, and your AK isn't good against that range. You will be getting even money against that range, and you'll still have to beat BB for the main pot, who likely has a pp.

So I fold here.

[sixsixtie]

Even with my read on the bb getting in practically any 2?

[TheBobn]

I shove also to get any fold equity against TT/JJ and so im not putting in 1/3 of my stack in PF with AK.

The push is fine, if the BB wasn't there, I'd call this in position

[bored]

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I shove also to get any fold equity against TT/JJ and so im not putting in 1/3 of my stack in PF with AK.

The push is fine, if the BB wasn't there, I'd call this in position

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FE? You have no FE; you have to beat BB if SB folds and there is no side pot.

[sixsixtie]

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I shove also to get any fold equity against TT/JJ and so im not putting in 1/3 of my stack in PF with AK.

The push is fine, if the BB wasn't there, I'd call this in position

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FE? You have no FE; you have to beat BB if SB folds and there is no side pot.

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Then that is a great result as I am crushing the BBs range

[bored]

32,470,420,752 games 104.843 secs 309,705,185 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.145% 15.80% 12.35% 5128970214 4009972281.67 { AdKh }
Hand 1: 25.163% 24.83% 00.34% 8061563206 109101726.17 { random }
Hand 2: 46.691% 34.40% 12.29% 11169369625 3991443699.17 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

If BB folds you'll be a 2:1 favorite over BB assuming he really is pushing w/ ATC. I think in reality, he'll show up w/ some pp most of the time.

[eastern motors]

I think I would fold this.

BB doesn't have much fold equity with the min-4bet so he probably has TT+, AQ+ unless he is tilting or bad.

You need to shove to get SB out of the way or fold. If SB calls your shove you are probably beat but maybe against QQ/AK.

I would just wait for a better spot unless these guys are super aggressive.

[bored]

I haven't done this math in a while.

Given BB will push ATC, SB will push QQ+, AK, and W/O the rake:

EV SB folds: 38.9*.65 - 15.7 = ~ 9.59
EV SB calls: 47.1*.28-15.7 +(74.7*.38 - 37.35) = ~ -11.4

9.59x-11.4(1-x)=0
9.59x-11.4+11.4x=0
9.59x+11.4x=11.4
20.99x=11.4

x=.54

If SB will fold 55% or more of the time, this is +EV. (W/O rake).

[ICMoney]

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Edit: In the interest of posting better...you have $2 invested so far.

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Don't disappoint Pokey.

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Edit: In the interest of posting better...you have $2 invested so far.

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Don't disappoint Pokey.

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I edited before I read that post. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[sixsixtie]

FWIW bb showed q9o
SB showed AA