NL50 - AQ river action

[mekkas]

Villain is 24-18 and we are both double stacked (me 90$ villain 89$) Comments on flop and turn would help, but the most important is the river action.

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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($4.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($28.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $18</font>, UTG calls.

River: 5/images/graemlins/club.gif ($61.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ?

[Profish2285]

Stacks would help. Assuming 100 bbs you already have 32/50 in there his line really looks like top pair so I dont see anything wrong with getting the rest in here. I dont think the turn and river improved him unless he is a complete idiot.

[balzak520]

In a vacuum, with these descriptions, I'm betting and extracting value. Have you C/R'ed him on such a dry flop before?

[friskyfleabag]

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In a vacuum, with these descriptions, I'm betting and extracting value. Have you C/R'ed him on such a dry flop before?

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he didn't c/r, the guy donkbet into him

[bsball8806]

Assuming you have somewhere around a PSB left, I'm fine with getting it all in here. I can't see him checking the river with a hand that you beat here. Shove it all in and hope QK calls you.

[PaulG]

Do we really think that a 24-18 calls our flop raise with KQ?

[billip62]

as played I'd go to valuetown on the river, but I would seriously consider checking behind on the turn for some pot control. I could be completely wrong here as I'm starting to worry I don't get enough value on my winning hands to make up for the coolers.

Am I correct in check checking the turn given the deep stacks?

[calimero]

this reeks of a typical set-spot.. "I can't see him checking the river with a hand that you beat"

just check behind

[Lego05]

Just call the flop. The only hand that you beat that isn't gonna fold (either there or instafold to a second bet) is KQ or maayyybe QJ and QJ prolly folds to a second bet and KQ might fold on a 2nd or 3rd bet too.

Just call the flop and keep his range wide...give him a chance to double barrel and such. There are no draws on that flop and his range is so wide. Really no reason at all to raise.


As played I might check behind on turn due to my slip up in raising the flop.


As played on the river I bet like 38. His hand now really looks like a weaker Q. I think the shove of $60 might fold it out so I bet like $38ish trying to get a call from KQ/QJ or mayybe a really stubborn JJ.

[Lego05]

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this reeks of a typical set-spot.. "I can't see him checking the river with a hand that you beat"

just check behind

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Clearly he meant "with a hand that you don't beat".

[vieira10]

Villains hand looks like AQ or KQ to me. I dont think he checks a better hand on the river unless you've been acting like a maniac latetly. I think you should make a small bet on the river to try and get KQ to make a crying call. Like 20 ish.

[infinity235]

I'm strongly inclined to check behind the turn for pot control. You weren't committed on the turn, but you bet anyways... building the pot and putting yourself to a point where your opponent can easily get AI, which you don't want because your hand has good showdown value and he is not a maniac. You might even be able to catch a bluff on the river.

On the river, I don't think we should take this one to valuetown. Try a blocking bet, but that's all I do... I check this behind most of the time.

[infinity235]

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this reeks of a typical set-spot.. "I can't see him checking the river with a hand that you beat"

just check behind

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Clearly he meant "with a hand that you don't beat".

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Never mind

[Baintz]

Why are you raising the flop? That's as dry a flop as you'll get, and you let lower pockets off the hook too easy or deny him a chance to double barrel. Plus, no better hand is folding, and you give him a chance to get away from a weaker Q on later streets.
Also, the fact that you're nearly 200BBs deep makes a stronger argument for calling flop.

[Berky]

40 on the river

[ADK]

3 bet pre. as played ...... i think i'll just check it down here. whats his AF ? could easily be trapping

[traz]

I probably check, I don't see a ton of value in betting. I call the flop most of the time

[Lego05]

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3 bet pre.

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Just calling pre-flop in this spot is fine as long as you float and/or raise the flop light sometimes.

[mekkas]

Tks for the help. I really should just call that dry flop..

I checked behind and he had JJ, I think he would pay a small bet at river.

[Nick Royale]

I usually don't call preflop. Def just call the flop.