extraction river plan.

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Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com (http://www.leggopoker.com) - Hand History Converter (http://www.leggopoker.com/hh)

CO: $44.80
Hero (BTN): $63.73
SB: $44.59
BB: $120.28
UTG: $94.60
MP: $51.99

Pre-Flop: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6) J/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.75</font>, SB folds, BB calls $3.75

Turn: ($13.50) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.25</font>, BB calls $12.25

River: ($38) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $??</font>

villain is 37/15/1

flop bet is small cos I'm hoping to string both villains along OR get a raise out of aggro SB.

whats a good bet size?

[DonManuel]

$15. I think it's a bad ace or something like QdJd or whatever stupid draw that the 2d brought. I don't think he calls a big bet

[tannenj]

$32.5. i don't dislike shoving either.

[Quester]

Arr in. This could be a badly played AJ, AQ, or even AK. Indeed pushing wins less often, but I feel it is often enough given how BB has played the turn to make it most profitable.

[PepsPersson]

I'm thinking 30$. Feels strange if he would be folding now that he have come along this far. QJ really goes this far? If he is, I think he may be calling river aswell. Doubt he has QJ tho, likely an Ace of some kind and me thinks 30 will be called. 15 is meh.

[Profish2285]

29.95 but I love making stupid looking bets.

[Nick Royale]

32.10

[WhiteWolf]

I'd target his top pair hands for a call here. Since he seems loose, a push has a good chance of being called - it's only a moderate overbet of the pot.

It would have been easier to get it all in on the river if we bet more on the flop.

[icheckcallu]

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Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com (http://www.leggopoker.com) - Hand History Converter (http://www.leggopoker.com/hh)

CO: $44.80
Hero (BTN): $63.73
SB: $44.59
BB: $120.28
UTG: $94.60
MP: $51.99

Pre-Flop: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6) J/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.75</font>, SB folds, BB calls $3.75

Turn: ($13.50) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.25</font>, BB calls $12.25

River: ($38) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $??</font>

villain is 37/15/1

flop bet is small cos I'm hoping to string both villains along OR get a raise out of aggro SB.

whats a good bet size?

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how much does he value hispairs? I would bet 25 here and almost get away with it if villain is so stupid he woul call with tp etcetc.

[matrix]

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It would have been easier to get it all in on the river if we bet more on the flop.

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ORLY?

[WhiteWolf]

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It would have been easier to get it all in on the river if we bet more on the flop.

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ORLY?

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I think so (although constructive criticism is welcome):

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com (http://www.leggopoker.com) - Hand History Converter (http://www.leggopoker.com/hh)

CO: $44.80
Hero (BTN): $63.73
SB: $44.59
BB: $120.28
UTG: $94.60
MP: $51.99

Pre-Flop: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6) J/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4.5

Turn: ($15.00) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, BB calls $14

River: ($43) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero has ~43 left behind and just needs a pot-size bet to get it all-in</font>

[Nemesis69]

Valueshove imo.

[matrix]

hmmmm....

whitewolf: thanks for the explanation but I did know that already hence the - flop bet is small cos I'm hoping to string both villains along OR get a raise out of aggro SB. - part of my OP.

FWIW I "thought" a few secs value shoved and villain time out folded. o well.

[Quester]

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I'd target his top pair hands for a call here. Since he seems loose, a push has a good chance of being called - it's only a moderate overbet of the pot.

It would have been easier to get it all in on the river if we bet more on the flop.

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In general, yes, but his reasoning for betting smaller is fine. He is more likely to get a call &amp; overcall or a raise because of the "weak" bet. Once one player got out and the other just called him, he could abandon this and bet larger on the turn and river.

I don't think the difference is substantial enough to heavily affect the outcome here. Valueshove indeed.

[WhiteWolf]

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hmmmm....

whitewolf: thanks for the explanation but I did know that already hence the - flop bet is small cos I'm hoping to string both villains along OR get a raise out of aggro SB. - part of my OP.


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Ah, I see... should have known I was being leveled!