NL50 KK - ugly turn

[orlov]

Villain is 18/10/2 over 52mined hands, 2nd orbit at table.

Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25/$0.50BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

SB ($52.25)
BB ($50.00)
MP2 ($50.00)
MP3 ($50.00)
CO ($51.50) (Hero)
Button ($86.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
MP2 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to 2.5</font>, Button calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $2.00,

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif ( $8.25 )
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $6.50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to 15.0</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP2 calls $8.50,

Turn: A/images/graemlins/club.gif ( $38.25 )
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $18.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero?

I just fold right?

Ive shown strength preflop, on the flop, and he isnt scared of the ace...

[Malifous]

I think this is a fold, Axhh or set it seems.

[willyc]

Is villain's aggression factor of 23 a typo? If not then I might not fold here.

If it was a typo then absolutely everything about villain's stats and line tell me that he has a set.

[orlov]

It was a typo, I edited it strait after but it didnt seem to work, anyway edited now.

I also thought it was a set since the limp utg would make sense for 66 and 22.

Is the flop raise still good tough? As he could be doing this with an sc or axs ?

[checktheriver]

On such a wet flop raising is mandatory unless you have a specific read. There are a lot of draws in his range, he might be donking / calling a raise with 99-TT or even TP. I'd raise more though (especially given it's multiway even though BTN is folding pretty much all the time unless he has a monster), make it ~20 and call a shove.

As played I'd fold turn, but don't you think he'd just push the flop with a set ?

[orlov]

I agree with him probably pushing the flop with a set, but I dont see him betting much that we beat on the turn

[Malifous]

He might not be playing set that fast. Why would 20 be better instead of 16, just curious since 16 seems fine to me. What does 20 achieve that 16 doesent?

[billip62]

The flop raise seems a bit tricky, I'd raise to 20ish. Depending on the player, he might think you're getting tricky with such a small reraise and that can give you bogus information. I think it's a fold, there really isn't much of the villian's range that you beat and it's a good place to save some money. had it been AA instead of KK and the turn was a K is anyone folding?

[Malifous]

Probably not...

[n4rf]

The Ace probably saved us here from a set, tleast it's the way I see it. It's possible villain put us on 2 overs and thought that ace might have hit us. He's definitely playing TAG and changing up his play from a usual slowplay.

I wonder how this hand would have turned out if Villain slowed down...