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z28dreams
11-19-2007, 03:21 AM
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BTN: $28.10
SB: $27.10
BB: $25.55
UTG: $25.25
Hero (CO): $25.50

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50 (misclick)</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $3</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($7) J/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $7</font>, Hero ???

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Villain is 48/14. Here are my notes on him:

raised 99 on raggy flop, bet turn, checked behind river

limped JT on button
bet tiny on turn with a made straight (FD on board!)

Do you get it all in here? The jack is kind of an ugly card - I'm guessing his reraising range here is around JJ-AA,AK. Basically, I'm only ahead of AK.
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bsball8806
11-19-2007, 03:25 AM
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limped JT on button
bet tiny on turn with a made straight (FD on board!)


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This makes me think he fancies himself a slowplayer, and won't bet out JJ here. I'd put his range on AK, KK, or AA.
I think I call this bet, and reevaluate the turn. Probably fold to a decent size turn bet.

Malifous
11-19-2007, 03:27 AM
make it 7.5-10 preflop and fold to shove? Thats how i would play it. Because weird pf action villain could be easily leading Tens, nines, AJ, KJ(?). His stats seem to be a bit donkish. As played i think i shove &gt;: P. If thats not the optimal play please correct me.

z28dreams
11-19-2007, 03:28 AM
So basically you're just letting AK cbet here?

What's the plan on the turn if he checks to you?

z28dreams
11-19-2007, 03:31 AM
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make it 7.5-10 preflop and fold to shove?

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Are you kidding? 4bet-fold is sooooo bad.

orange
11-19-2007, 03:36 AM
call the flop and shove the turn. i'm not giving this retard any respect.

Malifous
11-19-2007, 03:38 AM
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make it 7.5-10 preflop and fold to shove?

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Are you kidding? 4bet-fold is sooooo bad.

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Well against normal solid villain i do it with QQ since usually your at best in a flip against AK and totally destroyed against AA/KK, dont know really how to play it against 4x/15 though, depends.

chrismystero
11-19-2007, 03:40 AM
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make it 7.5-10 preflop and fold to shove?

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Are you kidding? 5bet-fold is sooooo bad.

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chrismystero
11-19-2007, 03:41 AM
How come SB vanishes from hand after putting in 75 cents?

z28dreams
11-19-2007, 03:44 AM
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How come SB vanishes from hand after putting in 75 cents?

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Not sure, converter probably broke. SB folded to the reraise.

z28dreams
11-19-2007, 03:48 AM
FOLLOWUP:

Hero calls the turn bet with intent to shove turn.

Turn: ($21) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif
SB insta-pushes all in ($15)
Hero ???

I know we shouldn't call the flop unless we're willing to felt here, but I was really hoping he'd check and I could shove him in for value.

Doesn't his bet here pretty much mean we're beat?

Malifous
11-19-2007, 03:53 AM
I call and pray he has the Jx. The board is not draw heavy at all and i dont think he would play KK/AA that aggressivly. I also think he would not play TT/99 like and no way he should have a seven in hes hand so i think its a Jx. I call.

z28dreams
11-19-2007, 03:55 AM
BB was the 4better preflop. I think he has Jx here almost never. (except for JJ)

Malifous
11-19-2007, 03:58 AM
I dont think he gives _any_ credit to a SB minraise in nl25. So he could be 3 betting TT AJs i think. OFC AA/KK are in hes range but weird way hes playing them so fast.

Berky
11-19-2007, 04:58 AM
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call the flop and shove the turn. i'm not giving this retard any respect.

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