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OSUGreg1983
11-17-2007, 11:22 PM
Villain 47/7/1.2 over 60ish hands. Im at 24/19/5.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com (http://www.leggopoker.com) - Hand History Converter (http://www.leggopoker.com/hh)

SB: $1.80
BB: $6.89
UTG: $5.64
CO: $6
Hero (BTN): $9.22

CO posts $0.05
Pre-Flop: T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.05, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.35</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.42) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.40</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.22) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $0.60</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BB calls $1.40

River: ($6.22) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $4.14 and is All-In</font>, Hero thinks to himself would villain open push here with a hand I can beat?

homeslice
11-17-2007, 11:36 PM
fold PF

OSUGreg1983
11-17-2007, 11:57 PM
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fold PF

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this is going straight to my database of insightful 2+2 advice

OSUGreg1983
11-18-2007, 12:14 AM
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fold PF

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I'm tattling....AMA? punk arse one word/phrase response? yesterdays lecture?

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Kimo White Devil
11-18-2007, 12:25 AM
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Hero thinks to himself would villain open push here with a hand I can beat?

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A9, oh wait maybe AK, AQ, AJ, A8, A6, A5, A4. seriously if you post this here you have a leak somewhere for sure...dont be result oriented

OSUGreg1983
11-18-2007, 12:27 AM
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Hero thinks to himself would villain open push here with a hand I can beat?

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A9, oh wait maybe AK, AQ, AJ, A8, A6, A5, A4. seriously if you post this here you have a leak somewhere for sure...dont be result oriented

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Is there something wrong with putting your opponent on a range that possibly beats you? I'm simply thinking outloud by posting that, wow dude.

Lego05
11-18-2007, 02:17 AM
Easy river call.


Easy pre-flop fold IMO.

gfejs
11-18-2007, 04:32 AM
U cant fold this after the turn.

Raising hands like this pf will get you in spots like this alot and without Daniel Negranue postflop reading skills its very hard too play it profitable. Why put yourself in unnessesary difficult spots when villians are calling with 10 7 pf and calling the flop with second pair and stacking of with weak 2 pr hands.

OSUGreg1983
11-18-2007, 04:53 AM
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U cant fold this after the turn.

Raising hands like this pf will get you in spots like this alot and without Daniel Negranue postflop reading skills its very hard too play it profitable. Why put yourself in unnessesary difficult spots when villians are calling with 10 7 pf and calling the flop with second pair and stacking of with weak 2 pr hands.

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Not bitching about the situation, just wondering if there are enough hands in villain's range that could beat me where this could turn into a -EV situation.

I'm not going to fold this hand preflop just because everyone else would, we all have are own styles of play. I asked if, "as played" what advice would be suggested. I'm not asking for advice on how to play AA from the button, or any other premium hand in an ABC TAG player's range.

FYI, i'm at 26PT/100BB's at 5NL through 3,000 hands so I hardly think my prelop hand selection is a huge leak. Yes, this may be a poor preflop play in most people's arsenal (definitely at higher limits), but maybe playing a hand an opponent doesn't place in my range every once in a while is a decent idea.

Sounds like I call as played sweet!....all other static is definitely n/a.

infinity235
11-18-2007, 06:30 AM
3000 hands is nothing. Please don't think you're God at these stakes. I've been running like this for 20k hands on micro stakes. Your preflop hand selection with 200BB stacks (which is the max buyin at Stars afaik) matters less, but it still is a huge leak, cutting into your LONGTERM winrate.

As played, I raise the flop as a continuation bet, to 1.20-1.60. 0.40 into a 1.40 pot? If you play T7o from the button, play it right and use your stealing equity.
As played, I put in a pot-sized raise on the turn, which effectively makes moving in on the river a no-brainer.
As played, I call the river. You pretty much committed on the turn, even though you sized your bets so awkwarly that BB could move in as a 2/3PSB. Please try to avoid such situations by sizing your bets correctly.

zasterguava
11-18-2007, 07:23 AM
Sorry for hijack, but lets say his 10 7 is suited... I would (if I had been playing tight) make a standard raise here. Good chance of taking the blinds down unless UTG is slowplaying a big hand but even so all the better if you hit the flop. I believe I read it is wise to raise it up with suited connectors on the button even with limpers. AMIRITE?

OSUGreg1983
11-18-2007, 09:26 PM
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I'm not going to fold this hand preflop just because everyone else would, we all have are own styles of play. I asked if, "as played" what advice would be suggested. I'm not asking for advice on how to play AA from the button, or any other premium hand in an ABC TAG player's range.

FYI, i'm at 26PT/100BB's at 5NL through 3,000 hands so I hardly think my prelop hand selection is a huge leak. Yes, this may be a poor preflop play in most people's arsenal (definitely at higher limits), but maybe playing a hand an opponent doesn't place in my range every once in a while is a decent idea.

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I admit I had drank a few brewskies when I posted this reply. When you're runnin good you naturally feel like expanding your preflop hand range, which I agree will most likely cut into my longterm win rate.



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3000 hands is nothing. Please don't think you're God at these stakes.

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Anyone with half a brain paying attention at these stakes is God. Miss = c/f.....Hit = BETTTTT and enjoy the fine dining that taco bell has to offer

There's no doubt I'll have to make adjustments when moving up limits.