50NL extracting with TPTK wet board

[creamfillin]

villain is around 20/10

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SB ($75.60)
BB ($50)
UTG ($84.15)
Hero ($52)
Button ($19.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($14.25) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $9.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?

[n4rf]

I'd put him on a BIG PP, KK or QQ, MAYBE AA (not likely) I'd push back here expecting a fold, or a call by AK.

Raise to $25

[bsball8806]

I like a raise to 18 preflop.
As played, shove. I can't see him with anything other than AA that beats you. KK folds, QQ folds, AK calls.

[LOwrestling2001]

why don't we just call here?? like everyone said here, if we shove only AA will call, what's the point of shoving? we don't have to worry too much about draws since a 20/10 isn't really 3betting us light. I say call flop, check turn behind, and value bet the river to get a crying call from a lower pair. Otherwise, lower pairs aren't putting any money in if you fire the turn. Or you could possibly bet the turn if checked to.

[Somnius]

From what I see, his pfr is 10...not 2...

He could have AQ, could be cbetting with JJ, QQ, KK etc etc...standard cbet%...I'd still probably just call this anyway then extract on turn, he bets again on a dry turn, push...yes...he'll probably call with AQ...

Edit: Unless of course his WSD% is very very small...which I doubt considering he's a 20/10=probably pretty predictable...

[RunDownHouse]

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I like a raise to 18 preflop.

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I'd love to hear why, along with things like what other hands you raise that much with pf, etc.

[EMc]

Shove here imo.

[LOwrestling2001]

oh i see, shove because it possibly gets AK to fold?

[Somnius]

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oh i see, shove because it possibly gets AK to fold?

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Maybe...probably not...shove because you get value out of AQ, AJ, flush draws etc which are in his range...

Edit: Not trying to speak for Emc as it might look...I would personally probably call then shove turn cause I stink...but if I were to shove flop, that would be why...same reasons for shoving turn of course...

[Wilpro]

Call, if turn doesn't diamond, and he bets, shove, if he checks turn, pot raise it.

[Speedlimits]

call. push over turn bet

also u realize wet boards dont mean as much in 3bet pots with 100bb effective stacks? esp at this limit

[Somnius]

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call. push over turn bet

also u realize wet boards dont mean as much in 3bet pots with 100bb effective stacks? esp at this limit

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I like that generalization.