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Jailblazers
11-11-2007, 09:00 AM
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BB ($8.25)
UTG ($6.65)
MP ($3.45)
CO ($13.05)
Button ($3.30)
Hero ($10.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.10, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.40) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.3</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $0.30, Button folds.

Turn: ($1) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.4</font>, Hero calls $0.70.

River: ($3.80) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $4.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?

Reads on villain is that he plays ATC but other than that, he hasn't really gotten out of line. is this a fold here?

Spurious
11-11-2007, 09:03 AM
are you kidding?

you cant fold, and you cant just call, you gotta fistpump first and then call.


Dont bet the flop, it's a bad semibluff.
If someone raises you, you have to fold.

3bet turn, why would you allow A/K/images/graemlins/heart.gif to draw?

Jailblazers
11-11-2007, 09:06 AM
I guess I sort of felt he had a flush here. Minraise is usually nothing BUT the flush in these spots. Monsters under the bed?

Edit: I guess the fact that I'm taking a shot really screwed up my play.

Spurious
11-11-2007, 09:06 AM
You got a good flush, he could have 98s or something.

Jailblazers
11-11-2007, 09:11 AM
Also, I factored in that most donks limps in with suited high cards. I definitely felt that he was more likely to be holding Axhh, Kxhh, Qxhh, or Jxhh

Spurious
11-11-2007, 09:15 AM
Hmm, you see monsters under the bed

you got a flush on a 3flush board, it's less likely he got one.

MrWooster
11-11-2007, 09:26 AM
You have to get it AI on the turn here, it is very unlikely he has a flush and even if he does, it is likely to be worse than yours.

Waingro
11-11-2007, 10:38 AM
I´ve got nothing to add other than I got really upset reading this OP. Shove turn ffs.

dirtylobster
11-11-2007, 10:41 AM
lol

Kingz22
11-11-2007, 01:57 PM
I would fold. Why? Because I've done the exact same thing to others and their second best flushes fell for it.

Spurious
11-11-2007, 01:59 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I would fold. Why? Because I've done the exact same thing to others and their second best flushes fell for it.

[/ QUOTE ]
resultoriented

EMc
11-11-2007, 02:03 PM
[x] board is not paired
[x] OP has best hand
[x] valuetown

Kingz22
11-11-2007, 02:45 PM
I've had really bad experiences with the non nut flushes; ok maybe my thinking is irrational

Kingz22
11-11-2007, 02:47 PM
but also I've seen the non flush shove like that at times when I've had the best flush

RustedCorpse
11-11-2007, 03:25 PM
I tip the dealer before I turn over my cards.

Unpaired board, he hit his straight and is giving you his stack. Don't play scared.

bsball8806
11-11-2007, 03:29 PM
i call this 100% of the time. If he has a higher flush, than so be it.

P.S in the future, reraise the turn, so if he has a higher flush draw, you make him pay.

john_bcfc
11-11-2007, 03:30 PM
Shove turn. As played call, and hope he reloads.

yegon
11-11-2007, 04:23 PM
why do you play crappy hands if you are not willing to get it allin when you hit big?

generally with 100xBB if villain offers you to go allin when you have a flush (any flush) on a 3flush unpaired board you call every single time. you will loose some to bigger flushes but you will win way more against nonflush hands, especially at NL10

SDone
11-11-2007, 04:26 PM
Caaaalll.

KamiKatze
11-11-2007, 04:31 PM
Fold* most* of the time you are beat*.
You played the hand well* on Flop* and Turn*, but you obviously* have to* fold* on the river.



*Guess what

Jailblazers
11-12-2007, 09:47 PM
To the guy who said it's a bad semibluff to bet on the flop.

Why?

Is it because I'm out of position? My draw isn't that strong? We put ourselves in a difficult spot on a blank turn?

I appreciate the help.