Monotone flop, unknown goes allin

[reidardahlen]

NL10
I raise J /images/graemlins/club.gifJ /images/graemlins/diamond.gif to 4BB on button, get 2 callers, both unknown.

Flop 3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif9 /images/graemlins/heart.gif ($1.59)
One player goes allin immediately for $6.87, other player folds.

Is this ever a call? With what hands would you call this against a "typical" player? What odds would you need to call with this JJ?

[bsball8806]

The way he played it, I think he has a pair and either the K or A high flush draw. You have to put in 6.87 to win 8.46, giving you only slightly better than 1.2:1 odds. However, there is a possibility he has a made flush, a set, or something else, which lowers our odds of winning this hand. We don't have the J of hearts, so if he has/makes his flush, we're drawing dead.

I don't see this as a profitable call given the odds, unless we're playing against a complete maniac.

[NotFadeAway]

I would expect this guy to either be an overexcited moron with a flush or a scared donkey with two pair or so at one of these tables. Either way I can't imagine ever calling here.
As for the price you would need, I would think that you would need a pretty large one (although I don't know exactly how big) since you lack the jack of hearts. With that card you could call much more often.