KQ 3 bet pot against TAG

[Profish2285]

Normally I fold here pf but this villain has 3 bet me about 5 or 6 times already and to be honest, it started to piss me off. By this point I already had 4 bet light a round ago against villain and he insta mucked. Thoughts on hand are appreciated.

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SB: $150.30
BB: $84.80
UTG: $50
CO: $24.10
Hero (BTN): $67.25

Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $8.25</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($17.50) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $10.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $59 and is All-In</font>

[Phytopath]

I doubt he is folding anything here except AK, but this is still pretty good line to take and stacks up pretty good versus his calling range (overpairs).

I would have folded PF though.

[slush420]

I like it. If he has a hand this time and loses, the tilt factor goes a long way for him. Add in fold equity + overs and a flush draw and I think you are quite +EV here.

[Profish2285]

FWIW I was about 99% sure villain was 3 betting light especially after his insta fold vs my 4 bet earlier on. Against this guy I felt like folding here is just begging for him to run me over for the rest of the session.

[Phytopath]

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FWIW I was about 99% sure villain was 3 betting light especially after his insta fold vs my 4 bet earlier on. Against this guy I felt like folding here is just begging for him to run me over for the rest of the session.

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I would never fold here, but I get sticky with my cards ;-), pushing is really the only option with the amount of monies already in the pot. Worst case he calls and you only have 9 outs, best case he folds, most when he calls you have up to 15 outs.

[john_bcfc]

Do you have stats on villian??

Could 4 bet before the flop?? But otherwise as played i think line is fine. You have 9 outs at least, plus fold equity. All in all i believe the way you played is +EV

[john_bcfc]

Against 88 99 1010 JJ you have 15 outs and you're a favourite. Against a set, KK and AA you have 9 outs and around 37%. Against QQ, slight underdog with around 48%.

If you pokerstove his range you're ahead most times.

[hennnerz]

Maybe we could 4bet to 19 or so?

[Profish2285]

Villains stats are 21/15/2.7 over a few hundred hands. I thought about 4 betting again but since I just did it the round before I figured he was much more likely to shove on me here.

[creamfillin]

This is fine, KQs is a great hand to go to war with in position against a light 3-bettor. NH

[z28dreams]

I don't mind it too much.

Did you watch goofyballer's video? He puts to use a tiny 4-bet preflop occasionally in spots like this where there might be light 3-betting and villain is capable of a fold.

As played I don't think it's too bad though. Once you call preflop and he leads the flop I think a shove is your best option.

[Profish2285]

Yea I watched his video, thats why I mini 4 bet earlier with whatever it was that I had.

[Hail Eris]

This seems pretty std honestly.

[Dr_Doctr]

I like the call. Against a light 3-bettor I call all day with KQs in position. Playing big pots in position with hands that figure to be good against an opponents range is a good idea right? It's a great flop for you and the shove is very standard I think. Wp.

[z28dreams]

As a slight sidetrack-

What's your line if the flop comes Kxx or Qxx and he leads into you?

[icheckcallu]

villain has a hand here often but u hit a good flop so shoving is good here

[huhwhatyousay?]

This is fine.

[Profish2285]

Im not sure why you think villain definitely has a hand here. Im going to assume that he will c-bet pretty much everytime after he 3 bets me so his line doesnt tell me much. As far as what I would do on a Kxx or Qxx board, hmm. Im going to call a flop bet on both of those and see what he does on the turn. Im not going to raise or shove in either one even if the board is drawy probably. Im not sure if this guy double barrels light so I would have to see the turn and his action before I could decide from there.

[Hail Eris]

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Im not sure why you think villain definitely has a hand here.

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B/c of recent history. Usually when you catch someone 3betting light and he 3bets you again in like the next orbit, you should weight their range towards better hands. But that is all pretty intuitive and depends on your feel for the dynamic more than anything else, so I can't say that you shouldn't play this hand as you did.

[Profish2285]

While I will agree with you normally, I have never been 3 bet this much from a villain so Im going to assume his 3 betting range does not polarize towards the upper part of his range even after our recent history. I gave up on everytime he 3 bet me except that one 4 bet because I just figured he was on a heater at first as is usually the case. He could have figured he ran into a real hand that one time, doesnt mean he has to fear my next open.

[Baintz]

NH. I'd play it exactly the same.

In regards to making a 4 small bet, I'd much rather do that with a hand like 76s which we can safely fold to a shove, or AA/KK/AK which we can call a shove with. KQs is good hand to see a flop with in position.

[Daniel LeClaire]

I definitely take a flop with this hand in position against someone who has been 3 betting me.

I like flop. I kind of like raising to $35-$40 better than shoving though. It looks a little stronger IMO.

[Profish2285]

The shove is to 59, I really dont want to raise to 35, having him flat call and a blank comes off on the turn.

[Unknown Soldier]

dont 4b small w/ KQs, calling is much better.

std as played.

[Daniel LeClaire]

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The shove is to 59, I really dont want to raise to 35, having him flat call and a blank comes off on the turn.

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I realized the shove was to $59 I just think making a smaller raise looks stronger and has more FE. You are playing for stacks either way.