50NL QQ

[Milky]

No reads, just sat down.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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SB: $39.75
BB: $57.90
UTG: $27
CO: $25.95
Hero (BTN): $53.45

CO posts $0.50
Pre-Flop: Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, SB calls $2.25, BB folds, CO calls $2

Flop: ($8) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5.50</font>, SB calls $5.50, CO folds

Turn: ($19) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $31.75 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $19.75

[iheartponeez]

I'm gonna guess it's a set.

[Milky]

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I'm gonna guess it's a set.

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I don't want you to guess what he has, I want to know what you think about my line.

[checktheriver]

This looks fine, but I'd bet more like 16 on turn, he has so many draws here.

[iheartponeez]

Bet more on the turn, a turn check-raise is often a signal of enormous strength. I bet more thinking he's drawing, but once he shoves I imagine he has a made hand (especially since I have no read). I fold there.

[wingchunflush]

I am fine with the line, this guy could be going nuts with like a pair and a straight draw here your getting 2-1 as played. I call

[Ranma4703]

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Bet more on the turn, a turn check-raise is often a signal of enormous strength. I bet more thinking he's drawing, but once he shoves I imagine he has a made hand (especially since I have no read). I fold there.

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There is too much money in there. Once you get to this point, you have to call. The question is whether we should avoid getting to this point. And without reads, I think we should. With a read, I have no problem with what happened.

[slush420]

your line is fine. I don't think 88-TT will 3bet the flop here as often as some think since you are also new to them. But being that villain makes check/call check/raise line with your double barrel I am sure he puts you on an overpair that he can beat and a fold here is probably fine.

[iheartponeez]

I am entirely unconvinced that 2-1 is worth a call here.

[Hail Eris]

Looks fine. I would bet more on the flop though.

[Milky]

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I am entirely unconvinced that 2-1 is worth a call here.

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You dont think he does this w/67 or a pair + FD?

[iheartponeez]

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I am entirely unconvinced that 2-1 is worth a call here.

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You dont think he does this w/67 or a pair + FD?

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That's a very aggro move on the turn. I don't think most villains semi-bluff that hard, and I don't put them on such a move unless I've seen evidence that suggests it.

[Phytopath]

You are totally committed after you make the turn bet, nothing you can really do about it. Being OOP makes this hand alot harder as does playing it against an unknown.

Sure it looks like a set, but it is 2 pair or TP often enough for this to be an easy call.

[iheartponeez]

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You are totally committed after you make the turn bet, nothing you can really do about it. Being OOP makes this hand alot harder as does playing it against an unknown.

Sure it looks like a set, but it is 2 pair or TP often enough for this to be an easy call.

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If it's 2-pair, we're way behind! Basically we're hoping he's on the draw or overplaying top pair. Against an unknown, I don't really love calling that a 2-1 shot.

[Phytopath]

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You are totally committed after you make the turn bet, nothing you can really do about it. Being OOP makes this hand alot harder as does playing it against an unknown.

Sure it looks like a set, but it is 2 pair or TP often enough for this to be an easy call.

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If it's 2-pair, we're way behind! Basically we're hoping he's on the draw or overplaying top pair. Against an unknown, I don't really love calling that a 2-1 shot.

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It isn't 2-1 it better than 3-1 to call, so if you mix in the 2pair, sets and 1-pair hands this is a call with the amount of money you have already committed.

[Poseidon65]

What kind of 2 pair are you expecting to see here given the preflop action?

[Profish2285]

The only reasonable two pair I see on this flop is 45. This could so easily be a set though or even 68. The odds are nice but I think I still fold here. He started with 80 bb's so its not like he is that short but this is probably close either way.

[Unknown Soldier]

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What kind of 2 pair are you expecting to see here given the preflop action?

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srsly?